1 00:00:03,780 --> 00:00:18,080 foreign 2 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:42,350 [Music] 3 00:00:55,549 --> 00:00:52,510 yeah 4 00:00:57,850 --> 00:00:55,559 welcome back to calling all beings it 5 00:01:01,250 --> 00:00:57,860 has been a minute maybe even a second 6 00:01:04,729 --> 00:01:01,260 back after her triumphant return is my 7 00:01:07,210 --> 00:01:04,739 homie Debs I'm your host DJ Money Nathan 8 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:07,220 is out west looking at some petroglyphs 9 00:01:11,630 --> 00:01:10,080 hieroglyphs and some stars and just 10 00:01:14,450 --> 00:01:11,640 having a good time out west with his 11 00:01:17,690 --> 00:01:14,460 family so we gonna hold it down for cab 12 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:17,700 Nation today so without further Ado uh 13 00:01:23,210 --> 00:01:20,340 at a study of uap's Debs how you doing 14 00:01:25,969 --> 00:01:23,220 home girl I'm unfortunately thinking of 15 00:01:29,270 --> 00:01:25,979 really bad jokes I could make about 16 00:01:34,249 --> 00:01:29,280 how we had slow dip and now it's a crush 17 00:01:39,530 --> 00:01:37,310 that does sound like some DJ uh dad joke 18 00:01:41,870 --> 00:01:39,540 type stuff so you're right in there uh 19 00:01:43,789 --> 00:01:41,880 Jules is in the chat with us today hello 20 00:01:46,249 --> 00:01:43,799 Miss Jules who knows who's going to want 21 00:01:47,870 --> 00:01:46,259 to join us on a Sunday afternoon if it's 22 00:01:49,069 --> 00:01:47,880 raining where they are and their UFO 23 00:01:51,950 --> 00:01:49,079 head they're probably going to be here 24 00:01:55,010 --> 00:01:51,960 so uh without further Ado let's get to 25 00:01:57,230 --> 00:01:55,020 the two uh principals who then we built 26 00:02:00,530 --> 00:01:57,240 this whole show around okay 27 00:02:03,469 --> 00:02:00,540 so uh we brought in for this Deb we 28 00:02:06,109 --> 00:02:03,479 brought in two uh well first of all we 29 00:02:09,529 --> 00:02:06,119 brought in uh one American brother known 30 00:02:12,110 --> 00:02:09,539 as uh Dan Warren and Dave Smothers so uh 31 00:02:13,610 --> 00:02:12,120 party people put their hands together 32 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:13,620 [Music] 33 00:02:23,449 --> 00:02:20,449 what's up guys 34 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:23,459 hi guys happy Sunday 35 00:02:26,570 --> 00:02:25,440 thank you I can't wait to hear what 36 00:02:28,130 --> 00:02:26,580 you're saying then we said you know what 37 00:02:30,589 --> 00:02:28,140 we got to make this party a little bit 38 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:30,599 bigger and since he's not in the Tour de 39 00:02:36,229 --> 00:02:32,879 France this week I'm not sure what stage 40 00:02:38,510 --> 00:02:36,239 they're in uh we decided that we get the 41 00:02:40,910 --> 00:02:38,520 um the services of somebody who care 42 00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:40,920 about the environment he's host of the 43 00:02:48,830 --> 00:02:44,480 mechanism podcast he is a cycling coach 44 00:02:51,830 --> 00:02:48,840 writer competitor and yoga teacher David 45 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:51,840 Johnston what's up baby hey hey 46 00:02:56,089 --> 00:02:53,760 everybody great to see you and great to 47 00:02:58,430 --> 00:02:56,099 be back with my wonderful cab Farm 48 00:02:59,930 --> 00:02:58,440 West Yorkshire we're happy to have you 49 00:03:01,910 --> 00:02:59,940 as you know it's always an honor to 50 00:03:03,770 --> 00:03:01,920 speak with you and so you know we 51 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:03,780 brought him in we'll bring on his 52 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:07,260 co-host this guy is just super badass 53 00:03:10,850 --> 00:03:08,879 man that's all he got to say he's really 54 00:03:13,729 --> 00:03:10,860 smart he's really cool and he's really 55 00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:13,739 capable and he's the host of the 56 00:03:21,110 --> 00:03:18,000 mechanism pop baby UK UAP ass what's up 57 00:03:23,410 --> 00:03:21,120 baby how's it going 58 00:03:26,750 --> 00:03:23,420 how you doing brother 59 00:03:28,490 --> 00:03:26,760 all good that that beard really suits 60 00:03:30,350 --> 00:03:28,500 you to get kind of a robin of Loxley 61 00:03:34,270 --> 00:03:30,360 sort of feel to it 62 00:03:40,910 --> 00:03:38,030 and we have oh we have look at this we 63 00:03:44,570 --> 00:03:40,920 thought that one Quarry wasn't enough so 64 00:03:47,149 --> 00:03:44,580 we decided to bring in two so this dude 65 00:03:49,369 --> 00:03:47,159 I'm I'll tell you what Deb he took over 66 00:03:51,890 --> 00:03:49,379 that that that that situation out there 67 00:03:53,869 --> 00:03:51,900 in Roswell as I said he is a beam of 68 00:03:56,509 --> 00:03:53,879 light and positivity a lot of the people 69 00:03:59,449 --> 00:03:56,519 here haven't had a chance to uh interact 70 00:04:02,089 --> 00:03:59,459 with in person and this is Corey well 71 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:02,099 first of all my USAF brother Corey 72 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:03,840 Jacques keel 73 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:05,570 hey 74 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:07,200 [Music] 75 00:04:12,970 --> 00:04:09,060 yes 76 00:04:15,949 --> 00:04:12,980 welcome brother you there you all right 77 00:04:17,750 --> 00:04:15,959 he does have some audio difficulty yeah 78 00:04:20,210 --> 00:04:17,760 let me let me um 79 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:20,220 I'm gonna boot out this other profile 80 00:04:24,830 --> 00:04:22,560 and then let's see if this there you go 81 00:04:27,290 --> 00:04:24,840 let's see we'll see if he can hear us 82 00:04:28,610 --> 00:04:27,300 Corey can you hear me over 83 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:28,620 yeah he's gonna have to look at his 84 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:30,720 settings unfortunately okay yeah Corey 85 00:04:34,969 --> 00:04:32,699 click settings audio and just make sure 86 00:04:36,650 --> 00:04:34,979 that what you've what you want to be 87 00:04:40,969 --> 00:04:36,660 speaking from and hearing from is what's 88 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:40,979 selected and uh without further Ado as 89 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:43,380 they say in France 90 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:44,580 um Dan 91 00:04:50,749 --> 00:04:49,199 dude man there have been so much going 92 00:04:54,050 --> 00:04:50,759 on down 93 00:04:56,990 --> 00:04:54,060 so uh I I heard Ross I heard about the 94 00:04:58,930 --> 00:04:57,000 Jilla brand uh this sort of uh what 95 00:05:01,610 --> 00:04:58,940 would we call it it's a new piece of 96 00:05:05,450 --> 00:05:01,620 legislation right it's not part of the 97 00:05:08,270 --> 00:05:05,460 ndaa am I correct so it's the IAA which 98 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:08,280 is the intelligence authorization Act of 99 00:05:13,129 --> 00:05:11,759 2024 which from what I'm learning 100 00:05:15,530 --> 00:05:13,139 because I've learned more about 101 00:05:17,570 --> 00:05:15,540 government bureaucracy by looking into 102 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:17,580 the UFO subject than I would have ever 103 00:05:22,249 --> 00:05:20,400 expected to learn on my own or be 104 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:22,259 interested in learning but from my 105 00:05:27,710 --> 00:05:25,199 understanding the IAA which still a 106 00:05:30,590 --> 00:05:27,720 brand spearheaded the language of is 10 107 00:05:32,330 --> 00:05:30,600 pages of information and it seems to be 108 00:05:35,330 --> 00:05:32,340 we are shifting our Focus from 109 00:05:37,730 --> 00:05:35,340 investigating sightings to investigating 110 00:05:38,749 --> 00:05:37,740 crash retrieval 111 00:05:42,890 --> 00:05:38,759 um 112 00:05:46,490 --> 00:05:42,900 collected artifacts and material from 113 00:05:48,290 --> 00:05:46,500 things that are not of human origin so 114 00:05:51,409 --> 00:05:48,300 it seems to be very focused on that but 115 00:05:54,710 --> 00:05:51,419 they take that language and then later 116 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:54,720 on in the year they combined it they 117 00:05:58,430 --> 00:05:56,639 combine it with the National Defense 118 00:06:00,590 --> 00:05:58,440 authorization act language that just 119 00:06:03,770 --> 00:06:00,600 gets put forward so it seems like they 120 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:03,780 end up taking the IAA and the ndaa 121 00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:05,300 language and mash them together 122 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:07,860 compromise on what's included in it and 123 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:09,600 then that's what they put on Joe Biden's 124 00:06:15,230 --> 00:06:12,240 desk in December to get signed into law 125 00:06:17,830 --> 00:06:15,240 at that time so there's there's all 126 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:17,840 kinds of information in it that have 127 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:20,400 counters timers on them they have a 128 00:06:26,510 --> 00:06:24,060 60-day is it a 30 day to disclose 129 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:26,520 it's 60 days to disclose what you have 130 00:06:32,749 --> 00:06:29,759 and then 180 days to show Congress what 131 00:06:34,850 --> 00:06:32,759 you actually have but those timers those 132 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:34,860 don't start until it's signed into the 133 00:06:38,570 --> 00:06:36,300 law which will probably be at the end of 134 00:06:40,430 --> 00:06:38,580 this year so that in my opinion is the 135 00:06:42,050 --> 00:06:40,440 big news going on right now that of 136 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,060 course is getting overshadowed by all 137 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:44,400 this fire hose of information that we're 138 00:06:51,550 --> 00:06:46,560 being constantly sprayed with that's 139 00:06:54,650 --> 00:06:51,560 coming out in a mass bombing of UFO news 140 00:06:58,249 --> 00:06:54,660 and information 141 00:07:00,770 --> 00:06:58,259 yeah um that uh that I really like the 142 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:00,780 language I have one uh one thing I'll 143 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:02,639 post to the group but I'm gonna wait my 144 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:05,039 turn David let's go with David Smathers 145 00:07:08,990 --> 00:07:07,440 welcome back Cory 146 00:07:10,490 --> 00:07:09,000 hey thanks for having me bro there's 147 00:07:13,249 --> 00:07:10,500 loads of stuff going on so we'll get to 148 00:07:16,189 --> 00:07:13,259 it but just back on on the III IIA 149 00:07:18,050 --> 00:07:16,199 legislation uh there's three things in 150 00:07:19,850 --> 00:07:18,060 it there's gonna cut the money off to 151 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:19,860 any saps who haven't declared themselves 152 00:07:23,029 --> 00:07:21,060 to the Congress 153 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:23,039 they're hanging the material like Dan 154 00:07:27,290 --> 00:07:25,440 said then there's something around a 155 00:07:28,850 --> 00:07:27,300 fast up on any work on propulsory you'll 156 00:07:32,330 --> 00:07:28,860 be doing but isn't we know about 157 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:32,340 scientifically so three things there and 158 00:07:35,990 --> 00:07:33,840 it's almost like a call to soft 159 00:07:37,309 --> 00:07:36,000 disclosure that's the important thing 160 00:07:39,050 --> 00:07:37,319 because it shows they believe the 161 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:39,060 whistleblowers the senate in my view 162 00:07:43,730 --> 00:07:41,220 anyway they've used this language in 163 00:07:46,430 --> 00:07:43,740 non-earth origin exotic Tech which is 164 00:07:48,050 --> 00:07:46,440 unheard of and apparently the selling 165 00:07:49,850 --> 00:07:48,060 armed services committee under the 166 00:07:51,710 --> 00:07:49,860 Congressional armed services committee 167 00:07:54,650 --> 00:07:51,720 are going to adopt that language when 168 00:07:56,570 --> 00:07:54,660 they put their stuff to the NDA so it's 169 00:07:58,550 --> 00:07:56,580 very significant and it's almost like a 170 00:08:00,890 --> 00:07:58,560 gauntlet down to the dod saying well 171 00:08:03,170 --> 00:08:00,900 we've heard your side of it but actually 172 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:03,180 we believe this and we're going to have 173 00:08:07,969 --> 00:08:06,000 any legislation so and one way it's soft 174 00:08:09,650 --> 00:08:07,979 disclosure but it sort of puts the dod 175 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:09,660 in a box as well so it's very very 176 00:08:15,710 --> 00:08:11,940 significant 177 00:08:18,589 --> 00:08:15,720 David unto you have any fear that 178 00:08:20,689 --> 00:08:18,599 there isn't enough transparity parents 179 00:08:23,089 --> 00:08:20,699 need to know who to take the funding 180 00:08:24,890 --> 00:08:23,099 away from like in other words so they 181 00:08:26,990 --> 00:08:24,900 can say okay we're we're pulling your 182 00:08:28,670 --> 00:08:27,000 funding at this point after the 183 00:08:30,050 --> 00:08:28,680 legislation sign but we don't you know 184 00:08:31,850 --> 00:08:30,060 maybe there are programs out there like 185 00:08:33,469 --> 00:08:31,860 oh they're not going to find us but 186 00:08:35,570 --> 00:08:33,479 that's the thing they just pivoted 187 00:08:37,070 --> 00:08:35,580 instead of it getting the magnifying 188 00:08:39,769 --> 00:08:37,080 glass on saying let's go and have a look 189 00:08:42,350 --> 00:08:39,779 and get an old Dr Kirkpatrick out to go 190 00:08:43,670 --> 00:08:42,360 and Shuffle around you know and pretend 191 00:08:46,430 --> 00:08:43,680 to look for stuff they're putting the 192 00:08:48,610 --> 00:08:46,440 onus on the people to fess up about it 193 00:08:50,990 --> 00:08:48,620 so these are the Private Industry people 194 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:51,000 so if they find out there's been a sap 195 00:08:54,530 --> 00:08:52,800 running but they've not authorized then 196 00:08:56,329 --> 00:08:54,540 they'll have broke the law so they 197 00:08:59,449 --> 00:08:56,339 pivoted the owners to the owners he's 198 00:09:01,310 --> 00:08:59,459 now on the secret Keepers to say and 199 00:09:02,509 --> 00:09:01,320 that's the key the big difference which 200 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:02,519 is a good question because I forgot 201 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:04,560 about that disaster you know the other 202 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:05,760 thing they've got this thing called a 203 00:09:09,430 --> 00:09:07,620 sense of Congress I think Ross mentioned 204 00:09:12,350 --> 00:09:09,440 it recently and that's about 205 00:09:15,710 --> 00:09:12,360 collaboration I.E call for collaboration 206 00:09:18,290 --> 00:09:15,720 between science Industry universities 207 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:18,300 uh you know to break this sort of sharp 208 00:09:22,670 --> 00:09:20,880 compound lies at compartmentalization no 209 00:09:24,170 --> 00:09:22,680 pun intended when you say the word sharp 210 00:09:26,810 --> 00:09:24,180 just because yeah no no it's all good 211 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:26,820 old shop you know no but to break the 212 00:09:32,810 --> 00:09:29,360 company putting me off here DJ 213 00:09:34,490 --> 00:09:32,820 to break the uh to just to break the 214 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:34,500 compartmentalization on which if you 215 00:09:38,570 --> 00:09:36,180 remember Lou and all that said was a big 216 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:38,580 problem to develop in the deck so that's 217 00:09:42,769 --> 00:09:40,320 another form of tough disclosure because 218 00:09:44,090 --> 00:09:42,779 when that starts it's effectively the 219 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:44,100 cat's out of the bag isn't it because 220 00:09:48,670 --> 00:09:46,560 it'll be wider dissemination so it's a 221 00:09:51,949 --> 00:09:48,680 real as Dan said it's such a pivotal 222 00:09:53,449 --> 00:09:51,959 piece of legislation as I say looks like 223 00:09:56,050 --> 00:09:53,459 the Senate have heard something but they 224 00:09:58,730 --> 00:09:56,060 believe from the whistleblowers 225 00:10:00,230 --> 00:09:58,740 can I chime in real quick yes sir tag on 226 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:00,240 to him I feel like one of the things 227 00:10:05,930 --> 00:10:02,820 that the IAA is doing is it's cutting 228 00:10:08,210 --> 00:10:05,940 off exits it's pretty much saying hey 229 00:10:09,889 --> 00:10:08,220 the dod you don't have the ability to 230 00:10:12,650 --> 00:10:09,899 weasel your way out of the questions 231 00:10:15,410 --> 00:10:12,660 that we ask you by saying oh well it's 232 00:10:17,630 --> 00:10:15,420 not uh quote unquote extraterrestrial 233 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:17,640 proof of this that or the other so it 234 00:10:21,949 --> 00:10:20,220 seems like they're eliminating they're 235 00:10:25,490 --> 00:10:21,959 going through the process of elimination 236 00:10:28,430 --> 00:10:25,500 by to basically prevent them from having 237 00:10:31,250 --> 00:10:28,440 the ability to get out of answering 238 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:31,260 those questions and even we as the UFO 239 00:10:35,570 --> 00:10:33,360 Community are adapting our language 240 00:10:38,030 --> 00:10:35,580 because I've heard a lot more people 241 00:10:40,910 --> 00:10:38,040 I've heard a lot less people say things 242 00:10:43,970 --> 00:10:40,920 like extraterrestrial alien things like 243 00:10:46,069 --> 00:10:43,980 that and now we seem to unanimously be 244 00:10:49,310 --> 00:10:46,079 starting to refer to this intelligence 245 00:10:52,009 --> 00:10:49,320 as in a child but not human intelligence 246 00:10:54,290 --> 00:10:52,019 once again eliminating the possibility 247 00:10:56,389 --> 00:10:54,300 for them to say it's something that it's 248 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:56,399 they that so they can't wheeze a lot of 249 00:11:00,350 --> 00:10:58,079 answering our questions so it seems like 250 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:00,360 we're all adapting we're all focusing 251 00:11:07,370 --> 00:11:04,620 our microscopes on what is left because 252 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:07,380 they're trying to throw Taff out of the 253 00:11:11,870 --> 00:11:09,600 airplane as we're zeroing in on them 254 00:11:14,509 --> 00:11:11,880 getting ready to put a lock on and now 255 00:11:16,730 --> 00:11:14,519 they're they're their options are 256 00:11:19,610 --> 00:11:16,740 running out and now the money is going 257 00:11:21,470 --> 00:11:19,620 to start drying up as this process plays 258 00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:21,480 out hopefully 259 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:24,480 Dan you're giving away our tactics for 260 00:11:29,769 --> 00:11:26,399 certain Munitions that's classified 261 00:11:32,870 --> 00:11:29,779 let's go on a Davey Johnston 262 00:11:34,970 --> 00:11:32,880 yeah I think that God mentioned that 263 00:11:37,310 --> 00:11:34,980 about weaseling out of it uh we just go 264 00:11:39,769 --> 00:11:37,320 back to um our good friend 265 00:11:42,290 --> 00:11:39,779 uh missile Mrs Goff 266 00:11:44,329 --> 00:11:42,300 and her statements that Arrow has 267 00:11:45,470 --> 00:11:44,339 nothing of extraterrestrial origin or 268 00:11:46,910 --> 00:11:45,480 anything that they can say is 269 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:46,920 extraterrestrial but again they're not 270 00:11:50,630 --> 00:11:48,480 answering the questions the question was 271 00:11:51,949 --> 00:11:50,640 does the Pentagon does the dod have 272 00:11:54,110 --> 00:11:51,959 anything that suggests these may be 273 00:11:56,389 --> 00:11:54,120 non-human so absolutely the closing 274 00:11:57,470 --> 00:11:56,399 loopholes are tightening things up here 275 00:11:59,329 --> 00:11:57,480 um but there's a couple of other areas 276 00:12:01,370 --> 00:11:59,339 that I found really interesting in this 277 00:12:03,949 --> 00:12:01,380 um in this proposed legislation so 278 00:12:06,410 --> 00:12:03,959 section 1104 of that bill 279 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:06,420 exactly as Dave said they refer 280 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:08,220 to 60 days 281 00:12:11,090 --> 00:12:08,880 um 282 00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:11,100 to provide notification of what they 283 00:12:15,769 --> 00:12:13,440 have and 180 days to provide a 284 00:12:18,290 --> 00:12:15,779 comprehensive list of all non-earth 285 00:12:21,230 --> 00:12:18,300 origin or exotic unidentified Anonymous 286 00:12:24,350 --> 00:12:21,240 phenomena material words I would never 287 00:12:27,470 --> 00:12:24,360 ever have dreamed of being able to read 288 00:12:30,410 --> 00:12:27,480 in this kind of legislation I have two 289 00:12:31,790 --> 00:12:30,420 concerns here the first is that what are 290 00:12:34,670 --> 00:12:31,800 they doing with that information and 291 00:12:36,650 --> 00:12:34,680 who's that going to it's going to Arrow 292 00:12:39,230 --> 00:12:36,660 how do we feel about Arrow how do we 293 00:12:41,329 --> 00:12:39,240 feel about what they've done so far 294 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:41,339 admittedly they are the you know the 295 00:12:44,990 --> 00:12:43,260 stocking trade that is their role but 296 00:12:47,449 --> 00:12:45,000 how do we feel about that 297 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:47,459 and the other thing is 298 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:49,680 we all know this talk about this this 299 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:51,360 type of information and this type of 300 00:12:56,269 --> 00:12:53,760 materials have been moved out 301 00:12:58,670 --> 00:12:56,279 of governmental bodies and into Private 302 00:13:01,250 --> 00:12:58,680 Industry so I think there's going to be 303 00:13:04,730 --> 00:13:01,260 some limits and some challenges there 304 00:13:07,610 --> 00:13:04,740 um those are my initial thoughts on that 305 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:07,620 uh I dig and I've heard some maybe not 306 00:13:12,829 --> 00:13:10,620 all but but maybe some but uh let's go 307 00:13:15,590 --> 00:13:12,839 with uh well first of all Ash remember 308 00:13:17,569 --> 00:13:15,600 if we invoke the name of the word sharp 309 00:13:19,910 --> 00:13:17,579 for this podcast we need to at least do 310 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:19,920 the air quotes right for in honor of 311 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:23,040 Christopher so he's like shut up DJ I'm 312 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:25,940 shooting you go ahead 313 00:13:30,829 --> 00:13:29,760 yeah so um really interesting you've 314 00:13:32,750 --> 00:13:30,839 covered a few bits I was going to cover 315 00:13:34,310 --> 00:13:32,760 anyway but yeah the language is it's 316 00:13:36,170 --> 00:13:34,320 just as you were saying Davey it's 317 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:36,180 phenomenal like would you would we have 318 00:13:40,490 --> 00:13:38,639 ever expected to see that in a you know 319 00:13:42,350 --> 00:13:40,500 a genuine piece of legislation being put 320 00:13:44,930 --> 00:13:42,360 forward it's it's it just shows how far 321 00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:44,940 we've come the only concern I have is 322 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:46,560 will that get dumbed down what will that 323 00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:48,000 look like when it actually does reach 324 00:13:51,410 --> 00:13:50,040 the president's desk for that final sign 325 00:13:53,690 --> 00:13:51,420 off how much of it would have been 326 00:13:54,410 --> 00:13:53,700 erased or modified 327 00:13:56,090 --> 00:13:54,420 um 328 00:13:58,190 --> 00:13:56,100 but a really interesting thing I wanted 329 00:13:59,870 --> 00:13:58,200 to go back to was what Dave and yourself 330 00:14:02,750 --> 00:13:59,880 were talking about DJ around the the 331 00:14:04,490 --> 00:14:02,760 onus being on on the the other side 332 00:14:06,410 --> 00:14:04,500 themselves 333 00:14:07,730 --> 00:14:06,420 um I mean we all know how deep some of 334 00:14:09,410 --> 00:14:07,740 these programs can go particularly if 335 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:09,420 they're off the book so to speak we've 336 00:14:13,790 --> 00:14:12,000 got to look back at history the CIA have 337 00:14:15,170 --> 00:14:13,800 been known to you know set up shell 338 00:14:17,150 --> 00:14:15,180 company after shell company and it's 339 00:14:18,769 --> 00:14:17,160 it's so hard to find that trail and 340 00:14:21,290 --> 00:14:18,779 actually know where that money's going 341 00:14:23,449 --> 00:14:21,300 and be able to pinpoint it to the right 342 00:14:24,170 --> 00:14:23,459 people so if the onus is on the other 343 00:14:25,610 --> 00:14:24,180 side 344 00:14:27,829 --> 00:14:25,620 if they're pretty content that they're 345 00:14:29,569 --> 00:14:27,839 that far deep and buried that nobody's 346 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:29,579 ever gonna be able to find them 347 00:14:32,870 --> 00:14:31,320 is that a wrestling going to take you 348 00:14:34,430 --> 00:14:32,880 know if they've gone this far without 349 00:14:36,290 --> 00:14:34,440 being found 350 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:36,300 um perhaps the onus on them doesn't go 351 00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:37,680 far enough 352 00:14:41,090 --> 00:14:39,600 um yeah that's that's my biggest concern 353 00:14:43,730 --> 00:14:41,100 I think how are you going to find these 354 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:43,740 really buried deep programs that are 355 00:14:47,449 --> 00:14:45,360 probably wrapped up in in Private 356 00:14:48,590 --> 00:14:47,459 Industry uh in the Shell company wrapped 357 00:14:51,170 --> 00:14:48,600 in another shell company in another 358 00:14:52,430 --> 00:14:51,180 shell company and that's yeah my initial 359 00:14:55,069 --> 00:14:52,440 thoughts at the moment 360 00:14:57,230 --> 00:14:55,079 what one example Ash is remember those 361 00:14:58,910 --> 00:14:57,240 three contractors actually there was 362 00:15:02,329 --> 00:14:58,920 four aboard the plane that got shot down 363 00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:02,339 in Colombia uh the CIA was running that 364 00:15:07,850 --> 00:15:05,040 operation but when the wives went to uh 365 00:15:09,290 --> 00:15:07,860 to to contact the company and said hey 366 00:15:10,730 --> 00:15:09,300 you know what are you guys doing to get 367 00:15:12,949 --> 00:15:10,740 our husbands released that company 368 00:15:14,329 --> 00:15:12,959 didn't exist anymore so that that's an 369 00:15:15,410 --> 00:15:14,339 example 370 00:15:19,269 --> 00:15:15,420 you know I don't know if you remember 371 00:15:22,250 --> 00:15:19,279 that yeah they got rescued some like uh 372 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:22,260 2008 seven or eight I think is when they 373 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:26,160 they organized that uh kind of fake uh 374 00:15:29,449 --> 00:15:27,600 it was supposed to be like some sort of 375 00:15:33,290 --> 00:15:29,459 a U.N helicopter but it actually was 376 00:15:35,410 --> 00:15:33,300 piloted by um a U.S uh Special Forces 377 00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:35,420 aviators and they they ended up getting 378 00:15:40,550 --> 00:15:37,880 airlifting them out of there so anyway 379 00:15:45,050 --> 00:15:40,560 uh let's go to Corey Corey what's your 380 00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:47,210 um hey thanks for having me on DJ hello 381 00:15:53,810 --> 00:15:51,120 shouts out to everyone across the pond 382 00:15:56,269 --> 00:15:53,820 um no you know I think uh Davey and Ash 383 00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:56,279 I would agree uh that 384 00:15:59,930 --> 00:15:58,560 um you know I think that within the dod 385 00:16:02,629 --> 00:15:59,940 there's a there's a certain you know 386 00:16:05,329 --> 00:16:02,639 portion that uh we may be able to get 387 00:16:06,889 --> 00:16:05,339 access to with this legislation but uh 388 00:16:08,750 --> 00:16:06,899 the private sector 389 00:16:11,449 --> 00:16:08,760 uh that you know there may be projects 390 00:16:15,129 --> 00:16:11,459 even Legacy projects uh outside of the 391 00:16:19,129 --> 00:16:15,139 dod that are funded private money 392 00:16:22,250 --> 00:16:19,139 or or government money in in some way so 393 00:16:24,590 --> 00:16:22,260 uh yeah I think there's I think everyone 394 00:16:26,449 --> 00:16:24,600 should be should be sharp and uh I don't 395 00:16:29,210 --> 00:16:26,459 know who said it but asking better 396 00:16:31,790 --> 00:16:29,220 questions yeah there you go 397 00:16:34,850 --> 00:16:31,800 but yeah yeah asking better questions 398 00:16:37,249 --> 00:16:34,860 and uh and even even when we feel that 399 00:16:39,530 --> 00:16:37,259 we have the goods uh from from Congress 400 00:16:41,810 --> 00:16:39,540 continuing to ask questions to see 401 00:16:43,790 --> 00:16:41,820 what's beyond that because it does seem 402 00:16:45,889 --> 00:16:43,800 to be the case that uh Private Industry 403 00:16:49,069 --> 00:16:45,899 uh has a lot of this stuff squirreled 404 00:16:50,990 --> 00:16:49,079 away I can't prove that but that's uh 405 00:16:52,249 --> 00:16:51,000 you know the sense I get from you know 406 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:52,259 watching the scene 407 00:16:55,970 --> 00:16:54,180 that's a great tangent that you just 408 00:16:58,610 --> 00:16:55,980 thought of that there may there may be 409 00:17:01,850 --> 00:16:58,620 private efforts out there that are uh 410 00:17:05,329 --> 00:17:01,860 maybe DOD uh entities are aware of but 411 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:05,339 uh not necessarily in control of or you 412 00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:07,079 know perhaps there's an umbrella over it 413 00:17:11,329 --> 00:17:08,880 but it's it's as you said completely 414 00:17:12,890 --> 00:17:11,339 private I just want to 415 00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:12,900 um say Julie 416 00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:16,319 um I I the mechanism we will try to get 417 00:17:20,030 --> 00:17:18,240 the link 418 00:17:22,189 --> 00:17:20,040 um and and I'll stick it up there it is 419 00:17:25,130 --> 00:17:22,199 on Spotify and I I think that's where 420 00:17:27,230 --> 00:17:25,140 I'm subscribed is on Spotify and that is 421 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:27,240 uh Davian Ash the mechanism is that the 422 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:28,860 correct am I saying correct it's the 423 00:17:32,510 --> 00:17:30,240 mechanism 424 00:17:35,870 --> 00:17:32,520 yes I'm getting getting thumbs up on 425 00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:35,880 that uh Debs go ahead ma'am 426 00:17:40,730 --> 00:17:39,000 okay so a few things a second hand 427 00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:40,740 source told me that some of these 428 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:43,919 organizations may want to give up their 429 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:46,320 technology that they actually inherited 430 00:17:52,130 --> 00:17:48,360 it and they are like what the heck this 431 00:17:55,010 --> 00:17:52,140 is Way Beyond what I was signing up for 432 00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:55,020 um and to add to that 433 00:17:58,970 --> 00:17:57,120 um this last weekend's 434 00:18:00,590 --> 00:17:58,980 um average show was looking at what was 435 00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:00,600 going on with Lockheed and made the 436 00:18:04,909 --> 00:18:02,700 comment it's interesting how like all of 437 00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:04,919 the top 10 people in Lockheed got 438 00:18:08,690 --> 00:18:07,200 changed over like in the last eight 439 00:18:10,130 --> 00:18:08,700 years 440 00:18:11,870 --> 00:18:10,140 um so it might be one of those new 441 00:18:13,789 --> 00:18:11,880 people taking a look at this and going 442 00:18:16,010 --> 00:18:13,799 you know what we're not supposed to be 443 00:18:18,650 --> 00:18:16,020 dealing with this stuff 444 00:18:20,510 --> 00:18:18,660 um let's say in this pack why do we feel 445 00:18:22,730 --> 00:18:20,520 it's like it's a hot potato you know at 446 00:18:26,150 --> 00:18:22,740 this point 447 00:18:27,650 --> 00:18:26,160 yeah I'm sorry go ahead yeah so I mean I 448 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:27,660 have a lot of thoughts about it you know 449 00:18:30,650 --> 00:18:29,280 but that's one of them that there might 450 00:18:32,450 --> 00:18:30,660 be some people who are like you know 451 00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:32,460 what this has been a heavy burden we're 452 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:34,860 not in the Cold War it's time to get to 453 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:37,440 a different stage with this 454 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:39,360 yep Bravo you know what's interesting 455 00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:41,760 first of all you know Corey said thanks 456 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:43,799 for being on it's an honor for us you 457 00:18:48,289 --> 00:18:45,840 know Debs and I to have everybody on the 458 00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:48,299 screen that's on here today uh that that 459 00:18:51,289 --> 00:18:49,980 you guys have all decided that you want 460 00:18:53,029 --> 00:18:51,299 to take time away from your day to come 461 00:18:55,010 --> 00:18:53,039 and speak with us we don't take that 462 00:18:56,690 --> 00:18:55,020 lightly we we are honored that you're 463 00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:56,700 all here 464 00:19:03,650 --> 00:19:00,000 um so uh you're welcome Jules uh Jules 465 00:19:06,110 --> 00:19:03,660 is in the chat she is she's uh uh just 466 00:19:07,250 --> 00:19:06,120 another studying force that we have on 467 00:19:09,529 --> 00:19:07,260 the show 468 00:19:13,010 --> 00:19:09,539 um so Mike my comments are 469 00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:13,020 one of the issues that uh 470 00:19:17,930 --> 00:19:14,640 uh one of the problems that was 471 00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:17,940 identified by David crush is that there 472 00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:20,460 are a lot of pro programs out there that 473 00:19:25,789 --> 00:19:23,520 Congress is unaware of I don't know how 474 00:19:29,570 --> 00:19:25,799 many I don't obviously we don't know the 475 00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:29,580 names of them so my thought is is that 476 00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:31,500 and you guys some of you alluded to it 477 00:19:35,210 --> 00:19:32,880 that could continue to be a problem 478 00:19:37,730 --> 00:19:35,220 because they have to first identify them 479 00:19:39,650 --> 00:19:37,740 and they may be betting okay uh I don't 480 00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:39,660 I think I don't know if it was Asher or 481 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:41,760 Corey that said they mean hey you know 482 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:43,260 we've gotten away from it this long they 483 00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:45,780 may not find us They don't know about us 484 00:19:51,169 --> 00:19:48,660 uh Crush never did get access we we 485 00:19:53,690 --> 00:19:51,179 slapped him down once he he tried to get 486 00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:53,700 access and that's when he filed his DOD 487 00:19:58,970 --> 00:19:56,580 IG complaint and the second aspect in 488 00:20:01,730 --> 00:19:58,980 the language is that the info is going 489 00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:01,740 to be given to arrow and Mr Kirkpatrick 490 00:20:06,830 --> 00:20:04,559 and I think probably among the panel 491 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:06,840 here Dan maybe there's some people that 492 00:20:12,049 --> 00:20:09,120 have a little bit of reticence or don't 493 00:20:14,930 --> 00:20:12,059 have the highest degree of trust in in 494 00:20:17,210 --> 00:20:14,940 in that particular entity 495 00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:17,220 no I mean yeah 496 00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:18,840 we'll go to you next day but go ahead 497 00:20:22,669 --> 00:20:20,520 sorry I didn't realize I didn't realize 498 00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:22,679 your subtle linked to down there DJ so 499 00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:23,520 there you go 500 00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:25,440 very subtle see that man that's why 501 00:20:29,570 --> 00:20:27,360 they're paying me so much money 502 00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:29,580 so one of the things that I've heard 503 00:20:33,950 --> 00:20:31,919 recently is that several of the 504 00:20:36,289 --> 00:20:33,960 whistleblowers that have come forward 505 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:36,299 aren't going directly to Arrow they're 506 00:20:41,150 --> 00:20:38,580 going directly to Congress so I feel 507 00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:41,160 like there are there is reluctance for 508 00:20:46,490 --> 00:20:43,740 some people to not feel safe in doing so 509 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,500 and based on Marco Rubio's 510 00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:48,480 um recent comments where he said they're 511 00:20:53,810 --> 00:20:51,600 even in fear of physical harm I'll say 512 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,820 if you're fear for their career here for 513 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:55,679 their life more or less 514 00:20:59,870 --> 00:20:57,600 um so they're they're not going through 515 00:21:02,390 --> 00:20:59,880 Arrow because they don't have faith in 516 00:21:05,570 --> 00:21:02,400 it themselves so they're going directly 517 00:21:09,230 --> 00:21:05,580 to Congress to me that's that speaks 518 00:21:10,850 --> 00:21:09,240 volumes about how arrow is perceived by 519 00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:10,860 the people that are associated with 520 00:21:15,470 --> 00:21:13,320 these programs they know that they can't 521 00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:15,480 rely on Arrow to provide the protection 522 00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:18,240 that they feel they need to be able to 523 00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:20,400 have the discussions that they need they 524 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:22,799 that these guys apparently want to have 525 00:21:27,289 --> 00:21:24,900 not just need to have but they want to 526 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:27,299 be the ones that that bring this out 527 00:21:31,930 --> 00:21:30,480 into the public Arena so I think that is 528 00:21:35,330 --> 00:21:31,940 telling 529 00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:35,340 indicator of the the Fate that they have 530 00:21:41,390 --> 00:21:38,400 in Arrow and his current formation do I 531 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:41,400 think arrow is going to change as the 532 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:43,980 funding improves we do know that Kirsten 533 00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:47,400 gillibrand has secured full funding for 534 00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:49,679 their operations so now maybe they have 535 00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:51,720 the ability to bring the staff in that 536 00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:53,400 would be that would allow them to 537 00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:56,159 respond accordingly in in a manner that 538 00:21:59,690 --> 00:21:58,080 would help them to be able to provide 539 00:22:02,270 --> 00:21:59,700 the service that they've been tasked 540 00:22:04,730 --> 00:22:02,280 with providing to the Congress instead 541 00:22:07,850 --> 00:22:04,740 of being worked around and bypassed by 542 00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:07,860 these people maybe this funding is what 543 00:22:13,850 --> 00:22:09,480 they needed to be able to do a better 544 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:13,860 job but I'll say there is um 545 00:22:19,850 --> 00:22:17,100 amends to be made it sounds like from 546 00:22:21,890 --> 00:22:19,860 the whistleblowers to arrow and how 547 00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:21,900 they've been treated and I think Rush is 548 00:22:27,049 --> 00:22:24,780 going to be the example of going forward 549 00:22:29,870 --> 00:22:27,059 hey grush is sitting here saying that 550 00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:29,880 he's been ignored directly by 551 00:22:36,409 --> 00:22:33,780 Kirkpatrick so how this plays out with 552 00:22:38,750 --> 00:22:36,419 grush is going to influence heavily in 553 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:38,760 my opinion how other whistleblowers come 554 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,080 forward to Arrow or to Congress directly 555 00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:45,840 um so so that's where I'm thinking they 556 00:22:49,789 --> 00:22:47,700 don't have the respect that they need 557 00:22:51,409 --> 00:22:49,799 they don't have the authorities that 558 00:22:53,630 --> 00:22:51,419 they need they don't have that title 50 559 00:22:56,029 --> 00:22:53,640 I've heard they have made improvements 560 00:22:59,149 --> 00:22:56,039 in their Staffing to be able to get some 561 00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:59,159 of that but I'm not 100 certain on how 562 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,200 well that's playing out but they do need 563 00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:02,880 to 564 00:23:12,289 --> 00:23:10,799 people and these programs that they can 565 00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,299 provide the protection that they need 566 00:23:16,909 --> 00:23:14,400 for them to come forward to Arrow so 567 00:23:18,529 --> 00:23:16,919 that Arrow can do their job and not make 568 00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:18,539 it someone else's problem 569 00:23:23,210 --> 00:23:20,760 give me a percentage on your level of 570 00:23:26,570 --> 00:23:23,220 confidence in them 571 00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:26,580 um well I I'm at the moment I still view 572 00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:28,440 Kirkpatrick as I'm going to give them 573 00:23:33,049 --> 00:23:30,120 the benefit of the doubt I'm going to 574 00:23:36,409 --> 00:23:33,059 give them the J Allen heineck trajectory 575 00:23:40,190 --> 00:23:36,419 in his professional career where he's 576 00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:40,200 starting off as eliminating the 577 00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:42,720 um things as he's just trying to get rid 578 00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:45,000 of as much of it as he can someone 579 00:23:47,649 --> 00:23:46,559 else's problem is what he's famous for 580 00:23:51,529 --> 00:23:47,659 saying 581 00:23:53,450 --> 00:23:51,539 so he is going with the um debunking as 582 00:23:55,610 --> 00:23:53,460 much as I can I'm going to say hey 583 00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,620 there's some anomalous stuff but look 584 00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,840 we've got this these planes off in the 585 00:24:01,970 --> 00:23:59,520 distance and he didn't know whether the 586 00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:01,980 stars in the background or stars or 587 00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:03,780 smudges on the camera it turns out they 588 00:24:09,529 --> 00:24:07,020 were smudges on the camera or flaws so I 589 00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:09,539 think he is going to be taking the same 590 00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:11,220 trajectory as jail and heideck where he 591 00:24:16,010 --> 00:24:13,020 eventually does start to come around to 592 00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:16,020 it but he's going to he he is not in my 593 00:24:22,430 --> 00:24:19,020 opinion going to take one step on faith 594 00:24:25,010 --> 00:24:22,440 on belief he's going to only take a step 595 00:24:27,890 --> 00:24:25,020 forward with proof and evidence in hand 596 00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:27,900 that he can present so until he has that 597 00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:31,080 he is going to absolutely not cross that 598 00:24:36,289 --> 00:24:34,080 line so I I I give him the benefit of 599 00:24:41,270 --> 00:24:36,299 the doubt I'm gonna say I'm 600 00:24:43,010 --> 00:24:41,280 70 on his team right now but if people 601 00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:43,020 if people don't come and talk to him 602 00:24:48,850 --> 00:24:46,500 then I'm gonna lose faith in him quickly 603 00:24:51,169 --> 00:24:48,860 be interesting if that's uh Victor 604 00:24:54,049 --> 00:24:51,179 wimbenyama's uh free free throw 605 00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:54,059 percentage this year Dan but anyway uh 606 00:25:00,169 --> 00:24:56,340 Dave uh I I suspect that your colleague 607 00:25:01,850 --> 00:25:00,179 Dan that your level of confidence is I 608 00:25:04,190 --> 00:25:01,860 have absolutely no confidence every 609 00:25:06,529 --> 00:25:04,200 emergency Albertson or he's compromised 610 00:25:09,230 --> 00:25:06,539 isn't he he's been dragging his feet not 611 00:25:11,450 --> 00:25:09,240 asking for the money saying this rubbish 612 00:25:13,850 --> 00:25:11,460 scientific High Bar Method but nobody 613 00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:13,860 can pass he's clearly doesn't want to do 614 00:25:19,370 --> 00:25:15,480 anything he's not asked for the money 615 00:25:21,289 --> 00:25:19,380 and anyway I I think that he I mean he's 616 00:25:22,669 --> 00:25:21,299 like a detective anyway for the killer 617 00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:22,679 to come into the police station to 618 00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:25,260 confess you know I mean he's pathetic on 619 00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:27,600 or on a murder killing somebody in a 620 00:25:31,490 --> 00:25:29,279 forensic laboratory before he believes 621 00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:31,500 it's happened it's absolutely I think 622 00:25:35,870 --> 00:25:34,020 he's totally compromised he's clearly 623 00:25:37,610 --> 00:25:35,880 parted up to the extent that arrow is 624 00:25:40,909 --> 00:25:37,620 now being used for plausible deniability 625 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,919 for the dod I mean that's how bad it is 626 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:43,440 oh oh no I don't know about it will cost 627 00:25:46,490 --> 00:25:44,640 it all because it's complete 628 00:25:47,930 --> 00:25:46,500 incompetence all around them so it's 629 00:25:50,510 --> 00:25:47,940 absolutely 630 00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,520 uh but I don't I mean I don't think the 631 00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:52,799 two words can can continue to coexist 632 00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:54,840 where we've got Dave grosh the senate 633 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,820 committee language on one hand and the 634 00:26:00,590 --> 00:25:58,559 DoD said oh I don't know about that and 635 00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:00,600 she'll go back to get any slide rule out 636 00:26:05,149 --> 00:26:03,120 he can't coexist but it's got to change 637 00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:05,159 but the unfortunate thing is Arrow's the 638 00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:07,679 only tool we've got legislatively so 639 00:26:11,390 --> 00:26:09,900 it's for me the clear answer is the 640 00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:11,400 governance needs to be changed and it 641 00:26:15,769 --> 00:26:13,500 needs to be taken out of the old usdi as 642 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:15,779 it has also been done six months ago and 643 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:17,460 it hasn't been done and they need to 644 00:26:20,029 --> 00:26:18,720 change the management against somebody 645 00:26:22,250 --> 00:26:20,039 they get competition they've got 646 00:26:24,049 --> 00:26:22,260 confidence in so I think if we wait for 647 00:26:25,549 --> 00:26:24,059 them we'll be waiting forever I mean if 648 00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:25,559 grush would have come forward to him he 649 00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:26,340 would have said oh that's very 650 00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,260 interesting come back come back when 651 00:26:32,570 --> 00:26:30,240 you've got a bit more evidence oh I 652 00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:32,580 can't take that that's just the essay oh 653 00:26:35,149 --> 00:26:33,720 no you've got a report that's 654 00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:35,159 interesting no I need to see it happen 655 00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:37,620 thanks that's my high bar of methodology 656 00:26:41,630 --> 00:26:39,900 I mean I'm exaggerating a little bit but 657 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:41,640 the point is I don't I think there's a 658 00:26:45,649 --> 00:26:43,980 people of no confidence in him and he 659 00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:45,659 deliberately that hearing slapped 660 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:47,100 everybody in their face didn't he saying 661 00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,960 there was no availability now it's 662 00:26:52,810 --> 00:26:50,480 verifiable evidence 663 00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:52,820 we know we've seen loads of the stuff 664 00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:55,140 are he's certainly been told about 665 00:27:01,789 --> 00:26:59,760 anecdotally so I I have I don't know I 666 00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:01,799 can't go minus but I'd say with him in 667 00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,159 charge you have no confidence 668 00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:07,440 I want to say one thing let me let me 669 00:27:12,409 --> 00:27:09,179 push back on you with one bit of 670 00:27:14,769 --> 00:27:12,419 information Dave so Brandon fugel he 671 00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:14,779 likes children 672 00:27:19,490 --> 00:27:17,520 his puppies he's raised his puppies I 673 00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:19,500 heard I'm already joking why Miranda's 674 00:27:24,590 --> 00:27:22,080 I'm just kidding there was a statement 675 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:24,600 that Brandon fugle made the owner of 676 00:27:29,090 --> 00:27:26,880 Skinwalker Ranch a few months ago where 677 00:27:31,970 --> 00:27:29,100 he said he did meet with Kirkpatrick I 678 00:27:33,409 --> 00:27:31,980 believe years ago and Kirkpatrick said 679 00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:33,419 to him like you don't even try to 680 00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:36,000 convince us that UFOs are 681 00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:38,220 actual factual things in the skies we 682 00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:40,200 already believe that show us something 683 00:27:45,649 --> 00:27:43,140 else what is your faith that that was 684 00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:45,659 the an accurate depiction of 685 00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:47,340 Kirkpatrick's 686 00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:51,000 view on the UFO phenomenon back then and 687 00:27:55,370 --> 00:27:52,320 why do you think that it would have 688 00:27:56,990 --> 00:27:55,380 changed from then to to how it is now 689 00:27:58,130 --> 00:27:57,000 well it's even worse though isn't it 690 00:28:00,169 --> 00:27:58,140 because if he does know he's done 691 00:28:03,409 --> 00:28:00,179 absolutely nothing so prove that has he 692 00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,419 that's worse I I think that means he's 693 00:28:07,130 --> 00:28:05,279 completely compromised because I thought 694 00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:07,140 at first he did those British Civil 695 00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:08,880 Service trick to pick somebody who 696 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,080 didn't believe any of it in the first 697 00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:12,000 place and then put them in charge of it 698 00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:13,679 so you get the answer that you want you 699 00:28:18,110 --> 00:28:15,840 know I mean that's the old trick well so 700 00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:18,120 I thought he was that at first but now I 701 00:28:22,250 --> 00:28:19,860 actually think no he's there he's there 702 00:28:24,049 --> 00:28:22,260 sort of pawning this game the method 703 00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:24,059 that everything is done if you're gonna 704 00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:25,919 say how we're gonna make a mess of this 705 00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:27,900 investigation you do exactly what he's 706 00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:29,940 done you know so I have no time for him 707 00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:32,100 I don't believe it I mean that doesn't 708 00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:33,900 mean to say I'm right and you're wrong 709 00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:35,940 Dan of course not I don't sat down you 710 00:28:39,529 --> 00:28:37,740 might be a bit more balanced in your 711 00:28:41,570 --> 00:28:39,539 view and that might be correct but I I 712 00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:41,580 think it's time for him to go we'll get 713 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:43,919 nowhere with him all I could say is is 714 00:28:49,850 --> 00:28:46,799 this Davey if if you know we could hire 715 00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:49,860 the the Scout sir Fiona Hill right the 716 00:28:55,010 --> 00:28:52,260 expert on Russia and Ukraine then why 717 00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:55,020 couldn't they hire Dave right you know 718 00:28:58,730 --> 00:28:56,520 to Arrow right we could get a man 719 00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,740 cunning we got Fiona Hill speak you know 720 00:29:02,810 --> 00:29:00,720 it's an absolute expert on Russian 721 00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,820 Ukraine we could have Dave as as an 722 00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:04,320 arrow guy man just bring him over the 723 00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:07,080 states I think we already have 724 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:10,140 it just it just happens to not be they 725 00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:12,480 dive it's not Dave Smith it was Dave 726 00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:15,480 grosh because if you remember he was 727 00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:22,430 Davey I want to set the table for you on 728 00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:23,940 this before you 729 00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:28,320 so if if Dave says I had I have I don't 730 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:30,240 he didn't name how many polygraphs he 731 00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,480 had but he has tssci slash poly and he 732 00:29:37,490 --> 00:29:35,279 said I had enough polygraphs that I 733 00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:37,500 could have been read into any program 734 00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:40,200 so if they decided not to read him in 735 00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:43,080 and then he said I've given information 736 00:29:49,610 --> 00:29:46,620 I have contacted Mr Kirkpatrick asked 737 00:29:52,669 --> 00:29:49,620 him to call me uh he can investigate the 738 00:29:55,789 --> 00:29:52,679 same things that I did then why uh 739 00:29:59,090 --> 00:29:55,799 doesn't that sort of not leave the out 740 00:30:02,389 --> 00:29:59,100 that that sort of uh was alluded to 741 00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:02,399 no and I think that the the fact that he 742 00:30:05,210 --> 00:30:04,500 raised this IG 743 00:30:09,169 --> 00:30:05,220 um 744 00:30:10,669 --> 00:30:09,179 uh the complexity icig complaint is 745 00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:10,679 evidence to the fact that he wasn't 746 00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:12,480 getting heard and wasn't getting what he 747 00:30:15,889 --> 00:30:14,220 was needed and actually it was turning 748 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:15,899 against him 749 00:30:19,970 --> 00:30:18,000 um and I do wonder you know what you 750 00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:19,980 said we need we need a man on the inside 751 00:30:24,169 --> 00:30:22,260 and I do wonder whether was the man on 752 00:30:26,990 --> 00:30:24,179 the inside we've heard for years the 753 00:30:29,630 --> 00:30:27,000 talks of the conflicting 754 00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,640 um groups that are trying to disclose 755 00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:31,679 soft disclose hard disclose whatever the 756 00:30:34,610 --> 00:30:32,880 groups have been trying to keep it 757 00:30:37,250 --> 00:30:34,620 closed and I wonder whether we were 758 00:30:39,049 --> 00:30:37,260 seeing in the influence that the likes 759 00:30:40,669 --> 00:30:39,059 of grushard and people into the 760 00:30:43,730 --> 00:30:40,679 Whistleblower language that was set up 761 00:30:45,769 --> 00:30:43,740 before that this was a stage to allow 762 00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:45,779 this to happen and we're seeing we're 763 00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:47,640 seeing different parties fighting 764 00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:49,860 against it 765 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:52,860 I totally agree it's it seems like 766 00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:54,720 there's a little bit of a push pull I've 767 00:30:58,010 --> 00:30:56,520 had discussions with a couple of you 768 00:31:01,010 --> 00:30:58,020 whether or not that office was something 769 00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,020 of a dog and pony show because Ash I 770 00:31:05,870 --> 00:31:03,840 when when when I don't know if it was at 771 00:31:08,330 --> 00:31:05,880 the NASA briefing but when they say 772 00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:08,340 start bringing up the word we need 773 00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:11,880 funding to get sensors that have are a 774 00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:14,460 certain polarity and sensitivity it's 775 00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:16,440 like dude you're not going dude you're 776 00:31:20,269 --> 00:31:18,600 not having sensors engineered for Arrow 777 00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:20,279 and I mean that's not happening dude if 778 00:31:22,970 --> 00:31:22,020 you're trying to put that over on us 779 00:31:25,370 --> 00:31:22,980 then you think we're going to buy 780 00:31:26,510 --> 00:31:25,380 anything I mean the military has some 781 00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,520 extremely 782 00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:28,799 you know not only the military but the 783 00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:31,399 government has some extremely uh 784 00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:35,700 sensitive uh both you know sonar 785 00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:38,340 um you know visual sensors there's 786 00:31:42,769 --> 00:31:40,140 plenty of Technology out there that have 787 00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:42,779 obviously already captured these these 788 00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:46,020 the uh UAP so that them throwing that 789 00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:48,360 out there certainly they need a budget 790 00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:50,640 for analysts and for people to do 791 00:31:54,830 --> 00:31:53,279 academic investigations and go out and 792 00:31:56,810 --> 00:31:54,840 interview people and stuff but they're 793 00:31:58,669 --> 00:31:56,820 not buying Hardware right Ash I mean 794 00:32:01,250 --> 00:31:58,679 what are we talking about with arrow 795 00:32:03,649 --> 00:32:01,260 here what's your your your take 796 00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:03,659 no I agree I mean come on those sense 797 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:05,460 systems are already in place it's just 798 00:32:10,730 --> 00:32:08,460 we need a mechanism to be there to 799 00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:10,740 enable Arrow or whichever agency is 800 00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,880 actually going to be investigating this 801 00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:13,440 to have access to those sense systems 802 00:32:16,490 --> 00:32:14,940 and have access to the data because 803 00:32:17,510 --> 00:32:16,500 obviously a lot of it is sensitive so 804 00:32:18,769 --> 00:32:17,520 therefore you do need the right 805 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:18,779 authorities do need the right security 806 00:32:22,490 --> 00:32:20,760 clearances I think it was Christopher 807 00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:22,500 Mellon has alluded to this numerous 808 00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:25,080 times around you know the date is there 809 00:32:28,370 --> 00:32:26,640 we just need someone to allow access to 810 00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:28,380 it and find a way of being able to get 811 00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:30,419 that data back to the right people 812 00:32:33,889 --> 00:32:31,980 um so yeah I I don't know what the score 813 00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:33,899 is there with them them using that as an 814 00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:35,039 excuse but 815 00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:37,500 yeah the center systems are there 816 00:32:42,409 --> 00:32:39,840 um on The Wider scale of things again 817 00:32:46,430 --> 00:32:42,419 I'll go back to Dave's Point um Around 818 00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:46,440 The credibility of Kilpatrick um whether 819 00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:47,640 you're talking about a government agency 820 00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:49,320 or a business at the end of the day if 821 00:32:53,090 --> 00:32:51,179 you haven't got the the buy-in of the 822 00:32:54,289 --> 00:32:53,100 people that you're you're wanting to 823 00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:54,299 come and speak with you and work with 824 00:32:57,529 --> 00:32:56,520 and and have a community with then how 825 00:32:59,389 --> 00:32:57,539 are you ever going to get anywhere 826 00:33:00,110 --> 00:32:59,399 you've lost you've lost their faith 827 00:33:02,810 --> 00:33:00,120 already 828 00:33:04,850 --> 00:33:02,820 um so I think his his time is coming up 829 00:33:06,590 --> 00:33:04,860 in my opinion um it's cards are marked 830 00:33:09,649 --> 00:33:06,600 and if we don't start seeing a change in 831 00:33:11,450 --> 00:33:09,659 in uh an opinion and people actually 832 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:11,460 going to them rather than bypassing them 833 00:33:13,730 --> 00:33:12,480 and going straight into Congress then I 834 00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:13,740 think that's only going to create more 835 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:15,120 issues 836 00:33:18,350 --> 00:33:17,279 um and also the whole scientific method 837 00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:18,360 thing around 838 00:33:21,529 --> 00:33:19,679 you know we need to have a rigorous 839 00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:21,539 process before we can prove anything I 840 00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:23,220 mean again I find that a bit ridiculous 841 00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:24,960 I mean we convict people of murder on 842 00:33:27,769 --> 00:33:26,399 less evidence verbal you know we have 843 00:33:29,149 --> 00:33:27,779 verbal testimony in court and that's 844 00:33:31,370 --> 00:33:29,159 that's fine 845 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:31,380 as it comes to a court case so why is 846 00:33:33,769 --> 00:33:32,880 that not fine in this in this case 847 00:33:35,210 --> 00:33:33,779 particularly when you've got 848 00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:35,220 corroborating evidence as gracious 849 00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:37,080 alluded to you know he's spoken to 850 00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:38,940 numerous people all corroborating 851 00:33:42,649 --> 00:33:40,799 the same thing and they don't know each 852 00:33:44,029 --> 00:33:42,659 other so there's clearly Cooperative 853 00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:44,039 evidence there so I think we should be 854 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:46,080 putting more emphasis on this verbal 855 00:33:48,529 --> 00:33:47,039 testimony as well and these people 856 00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:48,539 coming forward 857 00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:51,000 um so yeah I'm I'm not feeling it too 858 00:33:55,610 --> 00:33:52,740 much at the moment from Arrow I think we 859 00:33:58,130 --> 00:33:55,620 need to see more progress we need to see 860 00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:58,140 um more of the supposed whistleblowers 861 00:34:01,250 --> 00:33:59,399 and Witnesses coming forward to them 862 00:34:02,690 --> 00:34:01,260 directly before I have any real 863 00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:02,700 confidence in them 864 00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:11,629 um I the first time that I listened to 865 00:34:16,369 --> 00:34:14,580 those comments uh it was amazing for me 866 00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:16,379 I'm sure Dan ran out into the driveway 867 00:34:19,609 --> 00:34:17,460 and shot like three or four 868 00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:19,619 three-pointers at his hoop out in the 869 00:34:22,669 --> 00:34:21,300 driveways like just pumping them out 870 00:34:26,089 --> 00:34:22,679 there like doing some Steph Curry 871 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:26,099 business but what was your feeling Corey 872 00:34:30,770 --> 00:34:27,599 when you first heard that was it is 873 00:34:33,169 --> 00:34:30,780 jarring for you as it was for me 874 00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:33,179 hold on when I heard of what yeah what 875 00:34:40,669 --> 00:34:36,480 crush's interview with with Ross rossat 876 00:34:42,829 --> 00:34:40,679 oh you know I I was blown away I knew uh 877 00:34:45,730 --> 00:34:42,839 I knew it was a turning point and I knew 878 00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:45,740 that with someone like uh Ross cohort 879 00:34:50,270 --> 00:34:48,480 and you know the UFO Community watching 880 00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:50,280 that we weren't going to be able to put 881 00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,220 the toothpaste back in the tube uh and I 882 00:34:58,130 --> 00:34:54,960 kind of quickly established looking at 883 00:35:00,290 --> 00:34:58,140 social media that most of the credible 884 00:35:01,730 --> 00:35:00,300 people in our community found him to be 885 00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:01,740 credible 886 00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:04,980 um so I I and this is kind of why we're 887 00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:07,260 here now so I'm thankful that he that it 888 00:35:11,630 --> 00:35:09,000 came forward and thankful that news 889 00:35:13,010 --> 00:35:11,640 Nation gave you know that that a 890 00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:13,020 platform 891 00:35:16,970 --> 00:35:14,880 um still you know like most of us are 892 00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:16,980 like Hey where's where's the other you 893 00:35:22,609 --> 00:35:20,400 know major uh major media uh mainstream 894 00:35:25,550 --> 00:35:22,619 media they're kind of quiet on it 895 00:35:27,370 --> 00:35:25,560 but uh right to say the least I 896 00:35:29,810 --> 00:35:27,380 definitely quiet 897 00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:29,820 but I kind of I look at this a little 898 00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,980 bit different you know I from like a 899 00:35:36,109 --> 00:35:34,079 public relations standpoint so if you go 900 00:35:38,990 --> 00:35:36,119 back to 2017 and you're listening to a 901 00:35:42,589 --> 00:35:39,000 guy like Tom Delong and he's talking I 902 00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:42,599 think that we're watching uh a campaign 903 00:35:48,170 --> 00:35:45,839 rollout and I think that Rush probably 904 00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:48,180 there was he probably somebody like him 905 00:35:52,849 --> 00:35:50,700 was probably in the cards and I just 906 00:35:55,790 --> 00:35:52,859 think we're watching it play out in a 907 00:35:58,609 --> 00:35:55,800 kind of a linear fashion so I I'm sure 908 00:36:01,609 --> 00:35:58,619 Rubio uh julabrand people that really 909 00:36:04,010 --> 00:36:01,619 know what uh is going on in terms of 910 00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:04,020 this disclosure movement they probably 911 00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,640 know what's going to happen six months 912 00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:07,920 from now or a year from now is what I'm 913 00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:10,020 guessing I don't think that anything 914 00:36:14,210 --> 00:36:12,000 that's going to be said and let's say we 915 00:36:15,710 --> 00:36:14,220 do have public hearings in July I don't 916 00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:15,720 think anything is going to be said there 917 00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:18,420 that they weren't aware of uh from their 918 00:36:21,890 --> 00:36:19,680 perspective there's not going to be any 919 00:36:24,349 --> 00:36:21,900 new information hopefully for us there 920 00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:24,359 is going to be you know information but 921 00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:26,460 uh yeah I think it's a little bit of a 922 00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:28,500 charade and it's something that is game 923 00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:31,200 planned a long time ago and um they know 924 00:36:35,089 --> 00:36:33,180 we're kind of past the point of no 925 00:36:36,829 --> 00:36:35,099 return and we're going to see some 926 00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:36,839 infighting we're going to see factions 927 00:36:41,930 --> 00:36:39,119 that pop up and try to slow it but I 928 00:36:44,569 --> 00:36:41,940 don't think they can stop it it's just 929 00:36:46,730 --> 00:36:44,579 you know the train Train's gonna keep on 930 00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:46,740 rolling yeah there's no there's no way 931 00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:49,260 uh and from a political standpoint I I 932 00:36:53,870 --> 00:36:51,599 you know I think John Ramirez has talked 933 00:36:55,490 --> 00:36:53,880 about you know this is going to be 934 00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:55,500 um you know this is going to be a topic 935 00:37:00,349 --> 00:36:57,839 for the 2024 election 936 00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:00,359 um it's not yet but he seemed to have 937 00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:02,640 some foreknowledge that this is going to 938 00:37:07,069 --> 00:37:05,040 be a topic so I think we're headed yeah 939 00:37:09,650 --> 00:37:07,079 in the right direction and it's just 940 00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:09,660 going to reach that crescendo 941 00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:11,820 yeah I want to I want to tag on to 942 00:37:14,450 --> 00:37:13,440 Corey's comments real quick 943 00:37:17,329 --> 00:37:14,460 um 944 00:37:18,829 --> 00:37:17,339 as far as a long-term plan being 945 00:37:20,690 --> 00:37:18,839 deployed right now 946 00:37:22,910 --> 00:37:20,700 I almost wonder if the current 947 00:37:26,089 --> 00:37:22,920 whistleblower crash retrieval discussion 948 00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:26,099 is actually two years delayed we all 949 00:37:29,210 --> 00:37:27,420 remember that there was supposed to be a 950 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:29,220 New York Times article that was dropped 951 00:37:35,329 --> 00:37:32,460 about Crash retrieval programs that got 952 00:37:38,450 --> 00:37:35,339 whittled down is my understanding from 953 00:37:40,250 --> 00:37:38,460 what was actually released and 954 00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:40,260 um there was a lot of controversy on 955 00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:41,880 that at the time that it occurred so I 956 00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:43,820 almost wondered if that was the attempt 957 00:37:49,849 --> 00:37:46,500 two years ago to get this information 958 00:37:52,609 --> 00:37:49,859 out in front of the public and they had 959 00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:52,619 to reel it in and it delayed the process 960 00:37:58,430 --> 00:37:55,500 itself to where it is now and so this is 961 00:38:00,349 --> 00:37:58,440 just attempt number two to get this out 962 00:38:02,329 --> 00:38:00,359 into the public discussion 963 00:38:03,890 --> 00:38:02,339 there's a there's a sort of point to 964 00:38:07,130 --> 00:38:03,900 Cory's point though isn't there him but 965 00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:07,140 I don't think he's a consensus rollout I 966 00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:09,000 think he's a roll out by one side but 967 00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:11,400 can't be stopped so for instance I don't 968 00:38:14,329 --> 00:38:13,020 think they've all got together and I 969 00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:14,339 know you weren't saying this Curry by 970 00:38:18,650 --> 00:38:16,200 the way I get that I don't think that 971 00:38:20,569 --> 00:38:18,660 they're all playing the role in the dods 972 00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:20,579 the bad day in the pantomime and I don't 973 00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:22,740 think it's that I think obviously they 974 00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:24,660 went from 17 they've had this plan 975 00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:27,359 strategized as it were getting to Senate 976 00:38:31,849 --> 00:38:30,300 and it they're going and it's that plan 977 00:38:33,770 --> 00:38:31,859 that's going forward and I agree 978 00:38:36,829 --> 00:38:33,780 probably people who are looking at this 979 00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:36,839 and older deck the steps I suspect they 980 00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:38,820 didn't think of what he was going to say 981 00:38:42,770 --> 00:38:41,220 uh they've rushed the impact of it 982 00:38:44,810 --> 00:38:42,780 because he's drove a coach and horses 983 00:38:46,690 --> 00:38:44,820 through what we think of as the stages 984 00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:46,700 of disclosure aren't they 985 00:38:50,569 --> 00:38:48,900 a lot of them were in there the White 986 00:38:53,329 --> 00:38:50,579 House ripping up the paper when they 987 00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:53,339 said what he said you know but so I 988 00:38:57,290 --> 00:38:55,020 think you're right I think there's a lot 989 00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,300 they will know what's happening but I'd 990 00:39:01,250 --> 00:38:59,280 say more than it being a steady stately 991 00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:01,260 procession to disclosure David in the 992 00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:02,880 disclosure facts and it's a bit more 993 00:39:06,349 --> 00:39:04,920 like a I thought of a bar fight at first 994 00:39:08,450 --> 00:39:06,359 but it's probably not a bad fight is it 995 00:39:10,849 --> 00:39:08,460 and it was all Western bar fights it's 996 00:39:12,349 --> 00:39:10,859 more of a it's sort of happening but 997 00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:12,359 it's a you know it's sort of a bad 998 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:13,920 that's why I agree they know what's 999 00:39:17,150 --> 00:39:15,780 going to happen but I think it's quite 1000 00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:17,160 unpredictable as well but I don't think 1001 00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:19,380 it was a consensus I think you're right 1002 00:39:23,450 --> 00:39:21,119 Corey I think they've won now and they 1003 00:39:25,730 --> 00:39:23,460 try to check it home aren't they I 1004 00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:25,740 suppose is it is is it like when the 1005 00:39:30,349 --> 00:39:28,079 Manu fans and the Liverpool fans end up 1006 00:39:32,089 --> 00:39:30,359 in like the same bar Dave that kind of 1007 00:39:33,770 --> 00:39:32,099 thing now we're all we're all too 1008 00:39:35,329 --> 00:39:33,780 sophisticated for that days yeah we 1009 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:35,339 don't be building that sort of behavior 1010 00:39:43,569 --> 00:39:36,900 oh no 1011 00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:45,950 Corey right I think you just kind of put 1012 00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,300 like the icing on what I was saying uh 1013 00:39:52,910 --> 00:39:50,880 for sure because uh yeah I don't think 1014 00:39:55,069 --> 00:39:52,920 that there's one big you know meeting 1015 00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:55,079 where all of these policy makers get 1016 00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,119 together and say this is the plan I 1017 00:40:00,770 --> 00:39:59,280 think that there's uh you know we've 1018 00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:00,780 talked about it there's infighting 1019 00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:02,579 there's people who want this to come out 1020 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,980 sooner than later and there's people who 1021 00:40:08,510 --> 00:40:06,960 would you know for various reasons uh 1022 00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:08,520 probably a whole different faction that 1023 00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,380 would like to you know slow that as much 1024 00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:12,960 as they can uh or are just indifferent 1025 00:40:17,569 --> 00:40:15,720 to it for whatever reason it has to be 1026 00:40:19,310 --> 00:40:17,579 there's no way there could be consensus 1027 00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:19,320 but there's a couple things I want to 1028 00:40:23,329 --> 00:40:21,180 put out there real quick for who 1029 00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:23,339 whoever's in the chat if you have a 1030 00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,560 question uh Jules will tell you please 1031 00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:27,839 type it in all caps it will be on our 1032 00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:30,720 next go round uh and then I'm gonna go 1033 00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,079 to uh Debs and I'd like to hit this up 1034 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,480 and get everybody's if you can recall 1035 00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:38,880 what your visceral reaction was and 1036 00:40:42,829 --> 00:40:40,800 please don't say I heard it all before 1037 00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:42,839 nothing surprised me as far as what 1038 00:40:46,849 --> 00:40:44,640 Russia's rep Revelations because I know 1039 00:40:48,829 --> 00:40:46,859 that's gonna be I heard it all man it 1040 00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:48,839 ain't nothing he said it surprised me 1041 00:40:56,030 --> 00:40:51,780 but um Deb 1042 00:41:00,349 --> 00:40:56,040 um what is the most surprising thing or 1043 00:41:01,609 --> 00:41:00,359 interesting thing that Dave said look 1044 00:41:04,849 --> 00:41:01,619 I'm calling him Dave like we're friends 1045 00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:04,859 now Dan right but uh I mean he didn't 1046 00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:06,300 stay at my house like he stayed at 1047 00:41:10,730 --> 00:41:08,280 Jeremy corbell's I mean Jeremy probably 1048 00:41:12,109 --> 00:41:10,740 knows what kind of cologne he uses 1049 00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:12,119 um but 1050 00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:14,280 um Deb what was the most interesting 1051 00:41:19,250 --> 00:41:16,320 thing 1052 00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:19,260 um that he said to you or most uh 1053 00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:22,680 surprising thing I think the thing that 1054 00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:25,380 gets pushed under the rug quite often is 1055 00:41:29,569 --> 00:41:27,180 that people have died 1056 00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,579 and he said it um and I really think 1057 00:41:33,890 --> 00:41:31,680 people need to pay attention to that and 1058 00:41:35,930 --> 00:41:33,900 he's not the first person by the way who 1059 00:41:38,569 --> 00:41:35,940 said it but everyone seems to be 1060 00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:38,579 overlooking that um Gary Nolan also said 1061 00:41:46,130 --> 00:41:39,780 that 1062 00:41:47,870 --> 00:41:46,140 uaps and yes but but he threw a 1063 00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:47,880 different he threw a Different Twist on 1064 00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:50,040 it because we talked about this during 1065 00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:53,040 this uh either before 1066 00:41:57,470 --> 00:41:55,200 during or after the summer van episode 1067 00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,480 when I said I suspect the thing what 1068 00:42:01,069 --> 00:41:59,760 they really don't want us to know is if 1069 00:42:03,470 --> 00:42:01,079 people have been killed by these things 1070 00:42:05,630 --> 00:42:03,480 and he said he used the word When Ross 1071 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,640 asked him murdered 1072 00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:08,160 um he said yeah unfortunately yes I 1073 00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:10,200 think was his response back me up is 1074 00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:12,960 that right Debs uh yeah if anyone looks 1075 00:42:18,050 --> 00:42:15,960 into colorus I mean they're they're not 1076 00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:18,060 all you know rainbows and butterflies 1077 00:42:22,490 --> 00:42:19,800 the incidents that happen there are 1078 00:42:25,010 --> 00:42:22,500 pretty horrific people have you know 1079 00:42:26,990 --> 00:42:25,020 Burns and injuries and you know 1080 00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:27,000 obviously some people may not have ever 1081 00:42:32,750 --> 00:42:30,420 come back after being taken you know so 1082 00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:32,760 either some things 1083 00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:35,160 um that people are kind of missing and 1084 00:42:39,770 --> 00:42:37,500 they keep ignoring the fact that people 1085 00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:39,780 are saying people have died 1086 00:42:43,609 --> 00:42:41,820 so I think 1087 00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:43,619 I'm sorry Debs go ahead please ma'am 1088 00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,420 yeah so that's that's one of my concerns 1089 00:42:49,970 --> 00:42:48,000 but I just wanted to let Corey know that 1090 00:42:51,410 --> 00:42:49,980 I did see an article recently about a 1091 00:42:54,170 --> 00:42:51,420 presidential candidate talking about 1092 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,180 this so it is starting to enter the 1093 00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:55,920 presidential race 1094 00:42:59,630 --> 00:42:57,420 here I just want to say here's the Dave 1095 00:43:02,569 --> 00:42:59,640 fan right here Cosmo Dave needs more 1096 00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:02,579 public airtime damn it the the public 1097 00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:06,660 demands more Dave in 2024 1098 00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:10,260 and he should be part of Arrow uh Dan 1099 00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:11,880 um what was the most surprising 1100 00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:14,640 interesting jarring thing that Dave said 1101 00:43:19,609 --> 00:43:17,220 that really hits you because I I 1102 00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:19,619 couldn't have a normal day after hearing 1103 00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,700 that 1104 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,040 well there was I mean it was so much of 1105 00:43:27,230 --> 00:43:25,200 it confirmed 1106 00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:27,240 um or backed up and supported things 1107 00:43:31,490 --> 00:43:29,400 that we've all been hearing the thing 1108 00:43:33,170 --> 00:43:31,500 that of course jumped out to me was the 1109 00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,180 fourth and fifth Dimensions that he was 1110 00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:35,760 talking about maybe it's not 1111 00:43:38,569 --> 00:43:37,500 um from another planet maybe it's from 1112 00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:38,579 another 1113 00:43:43,609 --> 00:43:40,920 it's hard to even say the words out loud 1114 00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:43,619 Dimension or time and it immediately 1115 00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:46,140 made me think about the description that 1116 00:43:51,530 --> 00:43:48,660 Lou Alexander gave with the sick red 1117 00:43:53,630 --> 00:43:51,540 analogy with some entities potentially 1118 00:43:57,050 --> 00:43:53,640 experiencing time in a different way 1119 00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:57,060 than we do so that once again this is 1120 00:44:02,950 --> 00:43:59,460 where it takes me back to 1121 00:44:05,870 --> 00:44:02,960 um our ancients if these 1122 00:44:08,210 --> 00:44:05,880 non-human intelligences experience time 1123 00:44:11,150 --> 00:44:08,220 in a different way than we do maybe 1124 00:44:12,829 --> 00:44:11,160 they're the same non-human intelligences 1125 00:44:15,050 --> 00:44:12,839 that we're interacting with the 1126 00:44:17,930 --> 00:44:15,060 Egyptians with the 1127 00:44:20,750 --> 00:44:17,940 civilizations down in Peru maybe there 1128 00:44:22,849 --> 00:44:20,760 was an interaction from a long time ago 1129 00:44:24,829 --> 00:44:22,859 and maybe it's the same people and we'll 1130 00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:24,839 be able to learn more about our ancient 1131 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:27,780 Origins based on the future we're going 1132 00:44:31,730 --> 00:44:29,760 to learn more about our past as we move 1133 00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:31,740 into the future is what I hope from this 1134 00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:33,300 phenomenon and that is one of the things 1135 00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,099 that jumped out to me about gracious 1136 00:44:39,290 --> 00:44:37,440 comments is there's there's a potential 1137 00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,300 for that to occur 1138 00:44:43,970 --> 00:44:42,000 and by the way Dave and Dan coming up on 1139 00:44:46,370 --> 00:44:43,980 a future ancient civilizations episode 1140 00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:46,380 on cab where we're gonna hit up that new 1141 00:44:51,290 --> 00:44:48,900 uh hidden pyramid documentary and stuff 1142 00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,300 that was absolutely fascinating Netflix 1143 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,520 hit it out of the park with that 1144 00:44:57,890 --> 00:44:55,440 um and just to give the quote here 1145 00:44:59,809 --> 00:44:57,900 because I did take notes during that 1146 00:45:00,530 --> 00:44:59,819 interview he said 1147 00:45:02,329 --> 00:45:00,540 um 1148 00:45:05,089 --> 00:45:02,339 craft may not be traveling through space 1149 00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,099 as we understand it could be coming from 1150 00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:07,680 a quote higher dimensional physical 1151 00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:12,660 space co-located with us unquote so yeah 1152 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:16,560 it is okay that that really too it is 1153 00:45:20,809 --> 00:45:19,560 just shocking for a lot of people to 1154 00:45:22,250 --> 00:45:20,819 hear that because it sounds like you're 1155 00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:22,260 talking about a science fiction movie 1156 00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:25,680 Dave so real quick I'm speaking of 1157 00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:27,780 movies if you haven't seen it yet I do 1158 00:45:32,569 --> 00:45:29,700 recommend the new Indiana Jones movie 1159 00:45:33,890 --> 00:45:32,579 because of this exact conversation that 1160 00:45:37,309 --> 00:45:33,900 we're having right now I don't want to 1161 00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:37,319 get any spoilers out but it is it was 1162 00:45:41,809 --> 00:45:38,579 shocking 1163 00:45:44,690 --> 00:45:41,819 um to see the discussion uh the thought 1164 00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:44,700 process that went into the plot at once 1165 00:45:49,130 --> 00:45:47,520 about one specific uh 1166 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,140 it's pretty much I'm giving it away 1167 00:45:54,290 --> 00:45:51,680 right now what we're talking about 1168 00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:54,300 resist temptation because I want to go 1169 00:46:01,730 --> 00:45:58,079 see it it's good it's good I I will 1170 00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,740 um Dave uh most interesting shocking uh 1171 00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:03,839 did it affect your whole day the next 1172 00:46:10,190 --> 00:46:08,270 well I couldn't believe all the things 1173 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:10,200 that we knew about but he confirmed and 1174 00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,780 what struck me is we lived in this world 1175 00:46:16,430 --> 00:46:14,880 of speculation aren't we for decades or 1176 00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,440 whatever I remember we've been into it 1177 00:46:21,290 --> 00:46:18,720 and he immediately sort of collapsed 1178 00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,300 that sort of waveform as it were and all 1179 00:46:24,349 --> 00:46:22,800 things we thought were indeterminate 1180 00:46:26,329 --> 00:46:24,359 were determined if you believe a 1181 00:46:28,730 --> 00:46:26,339 strength of his evidence and that was 1182 00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:28,740 the biggest thing for me but maybe a lot 1183 00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:30,240 of the Witnesses were doing over the 1184 00:46:34,430 --> 00:46:32,040 years were much more credible but we've 1185 00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:34,440 been self-editing and that was that was 1186 00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:35,700 the sort of hour and a little bit more 1187 00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:37,500 viscerally than that but that's what I 1188 00:46:42,530 --> 00:46:39,480 thought the thing that really made me 1189 00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,540 reaching me snuff box though was the uh 1190 00:46:47,230 --> 00:46:45,119 was the treaty thing I've never I wasn't 1191 00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:47,240 expecting that or that 1192 00:46:52,849 --> 00:46:50,400 absolutely we'll get public internet in 1193 00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,859 a bit but all maybe another time but 1194 00:46:57,170 --> 00:46:54,960 what that was what did me but that class 1195 00:47:00,530 --> 00:46:57,180 in the waveforms really really important 1196 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,540 because it moves us right on down the 1197 00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:02,880 road and that's really significant to me 1198 00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,220 now I'm so glad you brought that up 1199 00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:07,440 because that was one hey what's up 1200 00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:10,560 Vinnie Adams in the building baby what's 1201 00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:13,680 up Vincenzo I got your uh I've got your 1202 00:47:23,870 --> 00:47:21,710 phone is starting to play Moto America 1203 00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:23,880 right now because I was watching Moto 1204 00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:26,520 America on my phone today uh because 1205 00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:28,980 there's no MotoGP right Davey 1206 00:47:36,050 --> 00:47:32,760 um so Davey what what was it uh brother 1207 00:47:38,329 --> 00:47:36,060 what did you find uh that was the most 1208 00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:38,339 Char uh shocking jarring interesting 1209 00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:39,960 that he said 1210 00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:42,480 for me very similar to Dave was how 1211 00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:46,560 similar this is to the car story we've 1212 00:47:51,290 --> 00:47:48,240 heard this so many times from so many 1213 00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:51,300 people in different ways different forms 1214 00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:53,160 um and then you start to think about you 1215 00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,040 know okay so high mesh Ed the former 1216 00:48:01,250 --> 00:47:58,800 Israeli Intel intelligence defense Chief 1217 00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:01,260 who came out and was saying effectively 1218 00:48:05,809 --> 00:48:02,760 these same stories one or two little 1219 00:48:07,609 --> 00:48:05,819 embellishments and bits broad on it and 1220 00:48:09,710 --> 00:48:07,619 the response was he's just repeating 1221 00:48:11,630 --> 00:48:09,720 what he's being told but he wasn't 1222 00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:11,640 telling that much a different story so 1223 00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,260 that for me was 1224 00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:15,839 pretty radical but sitting here with my 1225 00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:18,900 UAP Med hat on I have to Echo what Deb 1226 00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,960 said about the people having died but 1227 00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:24,240 again I I interpreted that in two ways 1228 00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:25,680 that people have been injured in 1229 00:48:31,550 --> 00:48:28,980 proximity to these objects but even more 1230 00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:31,560 terrifying and this is what really made 1231 00:48:34,430 --> 00:48:32,520 me 1232 00:48:37,930 --> 00:48:34,440 yeah shiver a little bit was that 1233 00:48:40,609 --> 00:48:37,940 perhaps people have been killed around 1234 00:48:42,770 --> 00:48:40,619 keeping this secret secure keeping this 1235 00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:42,780 safe that for me is 1236 00:48:49,370 --> 00:48:46,079 other otherworldly no it's too much of 1237 00:48:56,930 --> 00:48:51,050 I don't know why that came out as funny 1238 00:49:01,490 --> 00:48:58,790 well first of all let's say Bob Marley 1239 00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:01,500 is in the chat we have to say irie man I 1240 00:49:06,109 --> 00:49:03,780 can't wait for the new documentary on 1241 00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:06,119 Netflix man Jamaica is all now they're 1242 00:49:13,390 --> 00:49:09,900 all cringy nowadays I don't care man it 1243 00:49:16,370 --> 00:49:13,400 could suck it yeah uh 1244 00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:16,380 Vinnie thank you for saying that Vinnie 1245 00:49:21,170 --> 00:49:18,540 you're another awesome person we need to 1246 00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:21,180 get you on a panel you and your hair on 1247 00:49:25,309 --> 00:49:23,339 a panel here soon 1248 00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:25,319 um Ash 1249 00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:27,839 two questions for you sir first the the 1250 00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:30,060 question that we post to everybody which 1251 00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:31,920 is what it was the most interesting 1252 00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:34,079 jarring fascinating thing you heard Rush 1253 00:49:38,030 --> 00:49:36,780 say and secondly is What statistic do 1254 00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,040 you think 1255 00:49:42,290 --> 00:49:40,319 do they most not want to give up because 1256 00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:42,300 they think it would be so destabilizing 1257 00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,560 to the American and World populous 1258 00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:48,800 most interesting first good questions 1259 00:49:53,809 --> 00:49:52,560 yeah so um I think for me the fact that 1260 00:49:55,550 --> 00:49:53,819 we had we have had someone that's 1261 00:49:56,809 --> 00:49:55,560 followed the correct vetting process you 1262 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,819 know has been through the correct 1263 00:50:00,170 --> 00:49:59,040 process to actually come forward 1264 00:50:02,089 --> 00:50:00,180 um and Marco Rubio mentioned that you 1265 00:50:03,410 --> 00:50:02,099 know he was the first one to do that uh 1266 00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,420 and and the fact that his background 1267 00:50:07,370 --> 00:50:05,040 he's so credible you know he's a high 1268 00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,380 former high level intelligence operative 1269 00:50:10,370 --> 00:50:08,880 had a distinguished career in the 1270 00:50:12,349 --> 00:50:10,380 military as well you know the guy is 1271 00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:12,359 credible whether even just if you looked 1272 00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:13,500 him on paper he's credible they're now 1273 00:50:16,670 --> 00:50:15,000 having seen him in the interview as well 1274 00:50:17,930 --> 00:50:16,680 he comes across as very well presented 1275 00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,940 and 1276 00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,680 um yeah very diligent 1277 00:50:23,569 --> 00:50:21,359 so yeah all of what the guys have said 1278 00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:23,579 already but I think one thing that he he 1279 00:50:26,270 --> 00:50:24,900 came out with I thought was really 1280 00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:26,280 interested as well and again it's not 1281 00:50:28,490 --> 00:50:27,359 something we haven't heard before but 1282 00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,500 the fact again it's coming from someone 1283 00:50:32,089 --> 00:50:30,240 with that level of credibility was I've 1284 00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:32,099 got the comment here um I think Ross 1285 00:50:36,349 --> 00:50:34,020 quarter asked him around around 1286 00:50:37,309 --> 00:50:36,359 bodies and he said well naturally when 1287 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,319 you recover something that's either 1288 00:50:40,550 --> 00:50:38,880 landed or crashed sometimes you 1289 00:50:42,050 --> 00:50:40,560 encounter dead pilots and believe it or 1290 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:42,060 not as Fantastical as that sounds it's 1291 00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:43,680 true I mean the fact he came out and 1292 00:50:47,690 --> 00:50:45,660 said that you know we have bodies yes 1293 00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:47,700 it's just just like that it's like yeah 1294 00:50:50,450 --> 00:50:49,260 well obviously they crashed so we're 1295 00:50:52,849 --> 00:50:50,460 bound to have bodies we've got bodies 1296 00:50:54,049 --> 00:50:52,859 it's true so and it sounds as if it's 1297 00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,059 it's something that happens quite 1298 00:50:58,910 --> 00:50:56,400 regularly you know um so that that was 1299 00:51:00,170 --> 00:50:58,920 quite I found that quite interesting and 1300 00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:00,180 wow that it's come from someone of that 1301 00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:02,700 credibility and seniority and yes 1302 00:51:06,589 --> 00:51:04,020 statistically wise I think it goes back 1303 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:06,599 to the deaf thing the death um thing 1304 00:51:09,950 --> 00:51:08,640 that David was talking about and again I 1305 00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,960 interpret it in that way as well Davey 1306 00:51:13,490 --> 00:51:11,520 both sides both the uaps themselves 1307 00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:13,500 causing deaths and also the secret 1308 00:51:16,430 --> 00:51:15,119 Keepers were hiding the secret by 1309 00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:16,440 killing potentially people as well 1310 00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:17,520 because they didn't want the cat out of 1311 00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:18,660 the bag 1312 00:51:22,430 --> 00:51:20,460 um yeah I mean how many people go 1313 00:51:23,450 --> 00:51:22,440 missing per year I mean there's been 1314 00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:23,460 plenty of work done on that as well 1315 00:51:26,930 --> 00:51:24,960 missing four on that kind of stuff that 1316 00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:26,940 David providers does 1317 00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:29,040 um yeah I mean having dealt with missing 1318 00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,480 people as well in my previous career 1319 00:51:34,089 --> 00:51:32,160 there's a lot that goes under the radar 1320 00:51:36,829 --> 00:51:34,099 and people don't actually know about um 1321 00:51:38,930 --> 00:51:36,839 what ends up where do they end up what 1322 00:51:40,609 --> 00:51:38,940 happens to them if it transpired that 1323 00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:40,619 actually this was playing a part in that 1324 00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:41,880 I think that would be hugely 1325 00:51:45,049 --> 00:51:44,040 destabilizing for General populace to 1326 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:45,059 find out that actually there's something 1327 00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:46,260 out there that we have no control over 1328 00:51:50,270 --> 00:51:48,359 that's just taking people 1329 00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:50,280 you know and we've got no power of it we 1330 00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:52,260 can't stop it let's discuss this just 1331 00:51:56,270 --> 00:51:55,020 between you and me real quick if 1332 00:51:58,430 --> 00:51:56,280 if 1333 00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:58,440 somebody says they they were abducted 1334 00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,000 you know or someone you know there's a 1335 00:52:05,150 --> 00:52:02,400 missing person you know it it's it's 1336 00:52:07,849 --> 00:52:05,160 anecdotal in nature but if if the 1337 00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:07,859 military or the dod or an entity where 1338 00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:10,559 they can document without question that 1339 00:52:15,290 --> 00:52:13,440 someone was taken that went aboard a 1340 00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:15,300 craft and you know had a Travis Walton 1341 00:52:21,049 --> 00:52:18,240 and never came back now it's data 1342 00:52:23,150 --> 00:52:21,059 now it's data and that would be very 1343 00:52:24,530 --> 00:52:23,160 very frightening if they knew of cases 1344 00:52:26,930 --> 00:52:24,540 like that and they had to go and knock 1345 00:52:29,089 --> 00:52:26,940 on that service person's family store 1346 00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:29,099 and say yeah um it happened in a 1347 00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:30,960 training accident and by the way you 1348 00:52:35,870 --> 00:52:32,700 know you get into a whole line of things 1349 00:52:38,569 --> 00:52:35,880 if that has happened that is that would 1350 00:52:40,130 --> 00:52:38,579 be very very terrifying and and that's 1351 00:52:42,890 --> 00:52:40,140 you know like I said we talked about 1352 00:52:44,750 --> 00:52:42,900 that after the the semi van episode that 1353 00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:44,760 is one that they don't want to explain 1354 00:52:49,490 --> 00:52:46,800 because it also 1355 00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:49,500 goes toward that there may be a 1356 00:52:54,410 --> 00:52:51,359 malevolent well they're probably most 1357 00:52:55,849 --> 00:52:54,420 likely is a malevolent 1358 00:52:57,770 --> 00:52:55,859 um 1359 00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:57,780 species of these beings that we're 1360 00:53:02,450 --> 00:53:00,240 interacting as well as the benevolent 1361 00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:02,460 ones so that 1362 00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:08,089 yeah yeah totally agree with you on that 1363 00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:09,780 I mean it also goes back to the fact 1364 00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:10,680 that 1365 00:53:14,210 --> 00:53:12,240 the government's primary function is to 1366 00:53:15,890 --> 00:53:14,220 protect its citizens and if if it comes 1367 00:53:17,329 --> 00:53:15,900 out and transpires that they can't do 1368 00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:17,339 that then where does that lead to 1369 00:53:20,930 --> 00:53:18,900 government you know that is very 1370 00:53:22,970 --> 00:53:20,940 destabilizing isn't it 1371 00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:22,980 yeah it's what Jim sem event said he 1372 00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:24,960 said one of the difficulties they have 1373 00:53:29,329 --> 00:53:27,359 is they don't know why they've been so 1374 00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:29,339 reticent and this is not to make excuses 1375 00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:31,140 for them it's it's an understanding 1376 00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:33,720 thing not an excuse I agree great job 1377 00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:36,240 guys thing but they they don't know how 1378 00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:37,680 to explain this because they don't 1379 00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:40,200 understand it is what is what what Jim 1380 00:53:46,250 --> 00:53:41,280 said 1381 00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:46,260 um Corey sir uh most interesting uh most 1382 00:53:50,510 --> 00:53:48,839 interesting thing that that you heard oh 1383 00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,520 actually we started that question with 1384 00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:53,040 you didn't we yeah I don't know if I 1385 00:53:58,430 --> 00:53:55,980 answered it you know fully but yeah I 1386 00:53:59,930 --> 00:53:58,440 think uh what Ash said when he said uh 1387 00:54:02,930 --> 00:53:59,940 you know inevitably when you find down 1388 00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:02,940 crap you know you find the pilots and I 1389 00:54:08,750 --> 00:54:05,280 thought that was a that was a big 1390 00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:08,760 Revelation that hasn't been said on in 1391 00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:11,760 in public by somebody of his uh of his 1392 00:54:16,430 --> 00:54:14,400 status so I was like that is significant 1393 00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:16,440 he's going there 1394 00:54:20,089 --> 00:54:18,420 I I would like to shout out personally 1395 00:54:23,210 --> 00:54:20,099 for me I'd like to shout out Ross 1396 00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:23,220 coltart and I actually was at the gym 1397 00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:25,859 working out and I messaged the cabbies 1398 00:54:31,790 --> 00:54:28,500 we have a signal cabbie chat and I was 1399 00:54:33,950 --> 00:54:31,800 like guys I cannot believe what Ross did 1400 00:54:35,930 --> 00:54:33,960 with this Roswell question and for 1401 00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:35,940 somebody who does what we do where you 1402 00:54:40,490 --> 00:54:38,400 know interviewers and you see a master 1403 00:54:42,290 --> 00:54:40,500 like Ross you know you're like you've 1404 00:54:44,569 --> 00:54:42,300 just gone to school and seen someone 1405 00:54:47,150 --> 00:54:44,579 who's at a you know a postgraduate level 1406 00:54:48,650 --> 00:54:47,160 of of doing this what what I do and what 1407 00:54:52,250 --> 00:54:48,660 what you guys do 1408 00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:52,260 and I said he asked him in such a way he 1409 00:54:57,770 --> 00:54:55,920 didn't ask him a generalized question 1410 00:55:00,049 --> 00:54:57,780 he said 1411 00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:00,059 something and and somebody please back 1412 00:55:04,370 --> 00:55:01,920 me up on this and and help me out if I 1413 00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:04,380 get it wrong but he said uh talking 1414 00:55:10,670 --> 00:55:06,720 about Roswell and he said what can you 1415 00:55:13,130 --> 00:55:10,680 tell us about the nature of that craft 1416 00:55:15,770 --> 00:55:13,140 and he said or or what to tell and he 1417 00:55:17,690 --> 00:55:15,780 said I can't give you any of the details 1418 00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:17,700 on that on that craft 1419 00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:20,400 so what he was able to get I mean he 1420 00:55:23,569 --> 00:55:22,079 actually said this to Jay if you guys 1421 00:55:25,130 --> 00:55:23,579 listen to him with Project Unity 1422 00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,140 yesterday 1423 00:55:30,589 --> 00:55:28,079 um shout out to Project Unity and Jay uh 1424 00:55:32,270 --> 00:55:30,599 so now we know there was a craft I just 1425 00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,280 can't tell you the details but if he 1426 00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:34,319 said can we you know can you tell us 1427 00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:35,880 something about Roswell and he'd say 1428 00:55:40,730 --> 00:55:37,920 well I can't speak about Roswell well 1429 00:55:42,829 --> 00:55:40,740 now we have nothing but Ross posed it in 1430 00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:42,839 a way and asked him about that craft 1431 00:55:47,590 --> 00:55:45,300 that he's that he said I can't give you 1432 00:55:51,470 --> 00:55:47,600 the the details of that craft 1433 00:55:54,049 --> 00:55:51,480 [Laughter] 1434 00:55:56,930 --> 00:55:54,059 was specifically told he wasn't cleared 1435 00:56:00,370 --> 00:55:56,940 to talk about that particular incident 1436 00:56:03,890 --> 00:56:00,380 so what I I guess the 1437 00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:03,900 dopser process eliminated or prevented 1438 00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:05,940 him from being able to discuss Roswell 1439 00:56:10,910 --> 00:56:08,400 is what I took away from the way that he 1440 00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:10,920 phrased his response okay I'm gonna I'm 1441 00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,480 gonna give everybody here a homework 1442 00:56:17,930 --> 00:56:14,880 assignment to go back and listen to that 1443 00:56:20,089 --> 00:56:17,940 question because the way that the way 1444 00:56:22,910 --> 00:56:20,099 that he asked the question 1445 00:56:24,770 --> 00:56:22,920 he didn't deny that there was a craft he 1446 00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:24,780 basically said I can't talk about the 1447 00:56:29,809 --> 00:56:27,180 details of that craft then he went on to 1448 00:56:33,530 --> 00:56:29,819 say that the 1994 report was the most 1449 00:56:35,390 --> 00:56:33,540 amateurish uh amalgamation of thrown 1450 00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,400 together of different reports in any 1451 00:56:40,609 --> 00:56:37,440 intel analyst could see right through it 1452 00:56:42,589 --> 00:56:40,619 like it's you know uh like it's a tissue 1453 00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:42,599 paper so 1454 00:56:46,670 --> 00:56:44,400 um I I thought that was brilliant but 1455 00:56:48,650 --> 00:56:46,680 yeah if you have a chance go back and 1456 00:56:51,170 --> 00:56:48,660 listen to how Ross asked that question 1457 00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:51,180 and it was just like okay boom that's 1458 00:56:55,849 --> 00:56:54,000 how you do that because that way he 1459 00:56:58,370 --> 00:56:55,859 didn't give any details about it but in 1460 00:57:01,130 --> 00:56:58,380 doing that he basically confirmed it in 1461 00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:01,140 in my mind and he reiterated that on on 1462 00:57:04,849 --> 00:57:03,359 Jay show yesterday by the way 1463 00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:04,859 so 1464 00:57:08,809 --> 00:57:06,660 um yeah we're getting we're about about 1465 00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:08,819 running out of time I wanna I wanna I 1466 00:57:12,890 --> 00:57:10,559 wanna make one more comment about grush 1467 00:57:13,970 --> 00:57:12,900 real quick some of the statements one of 1468 00:57:15,770 --> 00:57:13,980 the things that really stood out to me 1469 00:57:19,609 --> 00:57:15,780 it wasn't my number one but it was close 1470 00:57:22,609 --> 00:57:19,619 number two was the 1933 magenta Italy 1471 00:57:25,370 --> 00:57:22,619 craft but specifically that Pope Pius 1472 00:57:26,990 --> 00:57:25,380 XII was the individual that informed the 1473 00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,000 United States of the existence of The 1474 00:57:31,069 --> 00:57:29,280 Craft and where it was located because I 1475 00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:31,079 for a long time been watching the 1476 00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:34,079 Catholic church's response to the 1477 00:57:37,730 --> 00:57:35,040 um 1478 00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:37,740 ongoing UFO phenomenon they held 1479 00:57:43,549 --> 00:57:41,280 conferences about it the uh the 1480 00:57:46,370 --> 00:57:43,559 astronaut that was in the nativity scene 1481 00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:46,380 at the Vatican a few years ago was 1482 00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:48,480 piqued my interest the Pope's Pope 1483 00:57:54,109 --> 00:57:51,119 saying that he would baptize aliens is 1484 00:57:55,790 --> 00:57:54,119 another thing that's my interest what 1485 00:57:58,430 --> 00:57:55,800 does the Catholic Church know that we 1486 00:58:01,790 --> 00:57:58,440 don't know the United States is was 1487 00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:01,800 established in 1776. I don't even know 1488 00:58:06,650 --> 00:58:03,720 when the Catholic church was established 1489 00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:06,660 how much history did they have that are 1490 00:58:11,390 --> 00:58:08,640 hidden in the vaults of their basement 1491 00:58:13,970 --> 00:58:11,400 of their own country that no one can get 1492 00:58:16,190 --> 00:58:13,980 to that is Out Of Reach for research 1493 00:58:19,309 --> 00:58:16,200 what did they know that we don't know 1494 00:58:21,230 --> 00:58:19,319 like so why why are they so forward in 1495 00:58:24,530 --> 00:58:21,240 the way that they 1496 00:58:29,770 --> 00:58:24,540 um have and I I just saw Vince comment 1497 00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:31,549 wallpaper 1498 00:58:37,609 --> 00:58:35,280 I don't have a fancy old old British 1499 00:58:40,250 --> 00:58:37,619 house I have just drywall walls I'm 1500 00:58:43,849 --> 00:58:40,260 dressing them up for the low I have the 1501 00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:43,859 lowest budget office that any of anyone 1502 00:58:50,690 --> 00:58:46,200 on UFO Twitter 1503 00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:50,700 yeah um and and Dan if if we look up the 1504 00:58:55,010 --> 00:58:53,160 um when Saint Peter was Pope I believe 1505 00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:55,020 he was the first the first pope we can 1506 00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:56,880 we can get a pretty good idea of how old 1507 00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:59,040 the Catholic churches in fact they named 1508 00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:02,400 that uh Basilica sempietro after him all 1509 00:59:06,049 --> 00:59:04,799 right um he's a very controversial Pope 1510 00:59:08,569 --> 00:59:06,059 as well actually but anyway we'll get 1511 00:59:10,430 --> 00:59:08,579 into that another time yeah and you know 1512 00:59:12,530 --> 00:59:10,440 the topics that Dan brought up right 1513 00:59:14,510 --> 00:59:12,540 there Dave I think we could hit those 1514 00:59:17,809 --> 00:59:14,520 topics up on the ancient civilizations 1515 00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:17,819 thing when when you you and Dave uh you 1516 00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:19,920 and Dan Rather take Center Stage 1517 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,599 um what I'd like to do now because we're 1518 00:59:24,650 --> 00:59:23,280 we're running out of time here we're 1519 00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:24,660 basically out of time but I'd like to do 1520 00:59:30,289 --> 00:59:27,599 one more go around of anything that um 1521 00:59:32,030 --> 00:59:30,299 uh that that anybody wants to say 1522 00:59:33,890 --> 00:59:32,040 starting with Deb and then we'll just 1523 00:59:36,289 --> 00:59:33,900 you know we'll be able to react to it so 1524 00:59:37,970 --> 00:59:36,299 go ahead Debs please well I'd like to 1525 00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:37,980 talk about something else that caused 1526 00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:41,040 quite a stir this week and that was the 1527 00:59:48,170 --> 00:59:42,720 um alleged 1528 00:59:50,750 --> 00:59:48,180 biology assessment of nhi on Reddit 1529 00:59:53,150 --> 00:59:50,760 um and how pretty accurate it was to 1530 00:59:55,309 --> 00:59:53,160 what experiencers have been claiming and 1531 00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:55,319 the fact that it was connected to Patel 1532 00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:57,119 so I just wanted to see what other 1533 01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:59,040 people thought about it I'm still you 1534 01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,960 know one foot in one foot out with 1535 01:00:04,370 --> 01:00:02,400 everything but I just wanted other 1536 01:00:07,630 --> 01:00:04,380 opinions 1537 01:00:10,849 --> 01:00:07,640 go ahead uh Dan 1538 01:00:12,829 --> 01:00:10,859 it's so far above my level and outside 1539 01:00:14,690 --> 01:00:12,839 of my wheelhouse I just had to treat it 1540 01:00:16,670 --> 01:00:14,700 as anecdotal 1541 01:00:19,250 --> 01:00:16,680 um I could be fooled easily by someone 1542 01:00:21,650 --> 01:00:19,260 that is able to speak that language I 1543 01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:21,660 don't I'm a mechanical engineer I 1544 01:00:24,349 --> 01:00:23,220 understand nuts and bolts I don't 1545 01:00:26,210 --> 01:00:24,359 understand 1546 01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,220 half of what he was talking about so 1547 01:00:30,349 --> 01:00:28,559 it's way over my head unfortunately 1548 01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:30,359 so anecdotal 1549 01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:31,920 David 1550 01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:34,440 I thought it was both very good and 1551 01:00:39,770 --> 01:00:37,440 could be uh quite dodgy but it hit a lot 1552 01:00:42,530 --> 01:00:39,780 of things it hit the body stuff with her 1553 01:00:45,710 --> 01:00:42,540 from Corso a number of things we'd heard 1554 01:00:47,390 --> 01:00:45,720 again over the time very convincing the 1555 01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:47,400 guy answered questions very quickly 1556 01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:49,440 apparently I assume it wasn't M sending 1557 01:00:54,109 --> 01:00:51,119 himself the questions the answer 1558 01:00:56,030 --> 01:00:54,119 questions very quickly so I thought it 1559 01:00:56,990 --> 01:00:56,040 was uh really pretty good I would say 1560 01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:57,000 though it did come out on the 1561 01:01:00,770 --> 01:00:58,559 anniversary of Roswell 1562 01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:00,780 and but it did pay to a lot of the big 1563 01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:02,960 tropes about alien sort of morphology 1564 01:01:07,130 --> 01:01:05,280 that we've gotten so it could have been 1565 01:01:10,490 --> 01:01:07,140 quite an elaborate so you would say oh 1566 01:01:13,250 --> 01:01:10,500 yeah it's right then so I'm like Debs 1567 01:01:15,289 --> 01:01:13,260 very much attained two minds of it but I 1568 01:01:16,970 --> 01:01:15,299 was certainly very interested I would 1569 01:01:19,010 --> 01:01:16,980 just point out a little linking but they 1570 01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:19,020 didn't have stomachs and there's some 1571 01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:21,119 link to cow things and they often the 1572 01:01:26,270 --> 01:01:23,040 fairies but cow's blood's taken from 1573 01:01:28,970 --> 01:01:26,280 mutilations off from up a cattle 1574 01:01:30,829 --> 01:01:28,980 mutilations for for food and all the 1575 01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:30,839 rest of it so that was a very 1576 01:01:34,490 --> 01:01:32,940 interesting link to me but again 1577 01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:34,500 you could just see what it could have 1578 01:01:37,789 --> 01:01:36,000 been very cleverly written so I thought 1579 01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:37,799 just that you know 1580 01:01:42,410 --> 01:01:39,780 so that's on the fence isn't it a mega 1581 01:01:44,089 --> 01:01:42,420 on the fence there sorry no I I haven't 1582 01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:44,099 even read it so I can't even comment it 1583 01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:45,839 on Davey 1584 01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:47,640 when I was a data analyst we used to 1585 01:01:50,809 --> 01:01:49,200 have a saying if it looks right it's 1586 01:01:51,370 --> 01:01:50,819 probably wrong 1587 01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:51,380 um 1588 01:01:58,510 --> 01:01:54,540 you were a consultant though David 1589 01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:02,289 it's a way of generating more money and 1590 01:02:08,510 --> 01:02:06,540 again this felt too too close to true 1591 01:02:11,210 --> 01:02:08,520 but what I would draw people's attention 1592 01:02:14,510 --> 01:02:11,220 to was Gary Norton's response to it and 1593 01:02:16,910 --> 01:02:14,520 he said here's an opportunity for the 1594 01:02:19,069 --> 01:02:16,920 UAP Twitter UAP Community Reddit 1595 01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:19,079 Community to investigate this properly 1596 01:02:22,730 --> 01:02:21,599 here's what is how you do it so go out 1597 01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:22,740 and do it and again I would encourage 1598 01:02:27,890 --> 01:02:25,200 people to follow the out the steps that 1599 01:02:30,109 --> 01:02:27,900 um that Gary Nolan outlined there 1600 01:02:32,690 --> 01:02:30,119 I hadn't seen that either so I've got 1601 01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:32,700 obviously got a lot of uh catching up to 1602 01:02:41,210 --> 01:02:36,900 do uh Duncan uh if you message uh Debs 1603 01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:41,220 on Twitter DM she can link you to all 1604 01:02:45,770 --> 01:02:42,319 this information 1605 01:02:48,829 --> 01:02:45,780 uh that that she was tracking uh or uh 1606 01:02:49,549 --> 01:02:48,839 last last week or during the weekend 1607 01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:49,559 um 1608 01:02:54,289 --> 01:02:51,359 Ash 1609 01:02:57,170 --> 01:02:54,299 anything about that uh NHL that uh 1610 01:02:58,609 --> 01:02:57,180 biology business uh I have I haven't 1611 01:03:02,510 --> 01:02:58,619 read it yet to be honest with you I've 1612 01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:02,520 had a busy week so no pun intended 1613 01:03:05,390 --> 01:03:04,079 sorry yeah 1614 01:03:07,609 --> 01:03:05,400 um but I'm happy to comment on something 1615 01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:07,619 else I found interesting please it's a 1616 01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:09,359 couple of weeks old now but the the um 1617 01:03:15,289 --> 01:03:12,000 Canadian MP Larry McGuire coming out and 1618 01:03:17,030 --> 01:03:15,299 saying that yeah with the orc UK US 1619 01:03:18,530 --> 01:03:17,040 orcas 1620 01:03:19,970 --> 01:03:18,540 um announcement basically saying that 1621 01:03:21,650 --> 01:03:19,980 Canada's credibility is going to be 1622 01:03:22,730 --> 01:03:21,660 damaged if we don't do something about 1623 01:03:25,250 --> 01:03:22,740 this because there's gonna be an 1624 01:03:28,609 --> 01:03:25,260 announcement from uh yeah from the the 1625 01:03:30,589 --> 01:03:28,619 trio of uh the US UK and Australia so 1626 01:03:32,089 --> 01:03:30,599 what could that be is is the first thing 1627 01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:32,099 and and how how could that damage 1628 01:03:35,690 --> 01:03:34,079 Canada's credibility uh but the fact 1629 01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:35,700 that he says expected upcoming upcoming 1630 01:03:38,510 --> 01:03:37,020 announcements as well is like it's kind 1631 01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,520 of been set in stone the wheels are in 1632 01:03:41,690 --> 01:03:40,559 motion so that's really interesting I 1633 01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:41,700 think what are we going to see over the 1634 01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,400 coming weeks and months in that regard 1635 01:03:47,930 --> 01:03:46,559 I that was fascinating when that came 1636 01:03:50,990 --> 01:03:47,940 out I was thank God because I was 1637 01:03:53,210 --> 01:03:51,000 looking for anyone to bolster what David 1638 01:03:56,270 --> 01:03:53,220 said uh grush so he didn't feel like he 1639 01:03:58,069 --> 01:03:56,280 was out there all on his own uh but as 1640 01:03:59,809 --> 01:03:58,079 Corey said uh not putting that 1641 01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:59,819 toothpaste back in the tube and then 1642 01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:02,160 Marco Rubio's comments I think Dan was 1643 01:04:04,849 --> 01:04:03,599 shooting more three-pointers after he 1644 01:04:08,809 --> 01:04:04,859 heard that 1645 01:04:11,150 --> 01:04:08,819 um uh Corey what's uh what's on your 1646 01:04:13,130 --> 01:04:11,160 mind what about the biology thing or if 1647 01:04:14,329 --> 01:04:13,140 you have another comment like what uh 1648 01:04:16,370 --> 01:04:14,339 Ash had 1649 01:04:18,410 --> 01:04:16,380 yeah I think Deb mentioned that so I 1650 01:04:19,970 --> 01:04:18,420 haven't just like uh yourself and Ash I 1651 01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:19,980 haven't had a chance to look at that uh 1652 01:04:26,569 --> 01:04:23,160 nhi uh report on you know the biological 1653 01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:26,579 effects on Reddit but uh I had to I had 1654 01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:29,280 to really got really lucky in Roswell we 1655 01:04:36,770 --> 01:04:30,240 had 1656 01:04:39,710 --> 01:04:36,780 and uh I asked him the question I said 1657 01:04:43,010 --> 01:04:39,720 uh representative Gallagher mentioned 1658 01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:43,020 the potential for a parallel Society I 1659 01:04:46,609 --> 01:04:44,400 kind of I try to leave it vague 1660 01:04:48,770 --> 01:04:46,619 something other that's also 1661 01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:48,780 technologically advanced that's living 1662 01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:51,119 living alongside of us 1663 01:04:55,370 --> 01:04:53,280 um and he didn't uh he didn't deny it he 1664 01:04:58,370 --> 01:04:55,380 did say that his his immediate priority 1665 01:05:00,410 --> 01:04:58,380 is to get whistleblowers to testify uh 1666 01:05:02,750 --> 01:05:00,420 but he but he said I I heard that from 1667 01:05:04,670 --> 01:05:02,760 Gallagher and you know Gallagher is uh 1668 01:05:06,650 --> 01:05:04,680 you know a former Marine and he said 1669 01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:06,660 he's no dummy 1670 01:05:10,970 --> 01:05:08,520 so I was kind of so I was kind of 1671 01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:10,980 surprised that he didn't shoot that down 1672 01:05:14,990 --> 01:05:13,200 it's Preposterous Preposterous as it 1673 01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:15,000 sounds that there's you know some 1674 01:05:20,569 --> 01:05:17,520 parallel civilization whether that be uh 1675 01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:20,579 here on Earth or interdimensional or you 1676 01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:22,680 know any other you know whether it's in 1677 01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:24,180 space 1678 01:05:28,370 --> 01:05:26,400 so Corey is an Air Force guy did you 1679 01:05:29,690 --> 01:05:28,380 challenge his notion of the saying 1680 01:05:34,010 --> 01:05:29,700 Marines aren't dumb or anything like 1681 01:05:36,289 --> 01:05:34,020 that no absolutely not absolutely not 1682 01:05:37,970 --> 01:05:36,299 you know I never made it past being a 1683 01:05:38,990 --> 01:05:37,980 staff sergeant so that's still at the 1684 01:05:44,329 --> 01:05:39,000 level where you don't really challenge 1685 01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:46,609 um man I had I had something I was going 1686 01:05:51,650 --> 01:05:48,480 to ask you guys and I've I've brain 1687 01:05:55,370 --> 01:05:51,660 flatulated so I I can't recall what it 1688 01:06:00,530 --> 01:05:58,069 um yeah I had some some overarching uh 1689 01:06:02,450 --> 01:06:00,540 topic but I think it's we're probably 1690 01:06:05,809 --> 01:06:02,460 getting close to to closing it out here 1691 01:06:09,049 --> 01:06:05,819 so let's go with uh parting shots from 1692 01:06:11,329 --> 01:06:09,059 uh anybody uh about and oh I wanted to 1693 01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:11,339 make a culpa on one thing that because 1694 01:06:16,609 --> 01:06:13,200 the thing that I didn't talk about what 1695 01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:16,619 shocked me the most I really I remember 1696 01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:18,720 having a conversation with Nathan and I 1697 01:06:25,130 --> 01:06:22,319 will I'm happy to you know to Pat myself 1698 01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:25,140 on the back when like uh grush says 1699 01:06:30,410 --> 01:06:27,200 about the Tic Tac he said 100 1700 01:06:32,930 --> 01:06:30,420 anomalous legit not our Tech not human 1701 01:06:36,410 --> 01:06:32,940 Tech because Deb's heard me say I'll bet 1702 01:06:38,210 --> 01:06:36,420 my I'd bet against uh MW I'd bet my life 1703 01:06:41,569 --> 01:06:38,220 against his that that's definitely not 1704 01:06:44,089 --> 01:06:41,579 human Tech or or uh of any sort however 1705 01:06:46,370 --> 01:06:44,099 I was pretty wrong I told Nathan I 1706 01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:46,380 didn't think that there was any sort of 1707 01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:48,480 a treaty or agreement I I told him I 1708 01:06:52,970 --> 01:06:50,160 really didn't buy that and now it looks 1709 01:06:56,510 --> 01:06:52,980 like I could be wrong about that so I 1710 01:06:58,190 --> 01:06:56,520 thought that was not shocking in a way 1711 01:07:00,349 --> 01:06:58,200 that those other things that you guys 1712 01:07:02,089 --> 01:07:00,359 brought up those visceral things we 1713 01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:02,099 wondered about bodies we've wondered 1714 01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,559 wanted to hear about whether there is a 1715 01:07:08,510 --> 01:07:06,480 a dimension co-located where they can 1716 01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:08,520 come into our reality because it seems 1717 01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:10,319 like that's the way people have seen 1718 01:07:16,130 --> 01:07:13,680 them enter and exit but so those were 1719 01:07:18,289 --> 01:07:16,140 the most shocking but very surprising I 1720 01:07:21,289 --> 01:07:18,299 guess if I were to use the word I was 1721 01:07:24,589 --> 01:07:21,299 surprised that there could be some could 1722 01:07:28,010 --> 01:07:24,599 or have been or could be some sort of a 1723 01:07:30,589 --> 01:07:28,020 treaty it sounds ridiculous but if if he 1724 01:07:33,950 --> 01:07:30,599 said it uh he wouldn't say it flippantly 1725 01:07:36,049 --> 01:07:33,960 he must have based it on something that 1726 01:07:38,089 --> 01:07:36,059 um that he's heard from a really good 1727 01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:38,099 source because they're going to have no 1728 01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:40,799 success in debunking this guy given the 1729 01:07:44,809 --> 01:07:42,960 people who have stood up for him and 1730 01:07:47,390 --> 01:07:44,819 I've said on um 1731 01:07:49,490 --> 01:07:47,400 on pod before 1732 01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:49,500 um I've spoken with a lot of people know 1733 01:07:54,349 --> 01:07:51,119 Richard Budd in the community they don't 1734 01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:54,359 know who he is I know who he is both on 1735 01:07:59,329 --> 01:07:56,760 the official Network and his name and 1736 01:08:01,250 --> 01:07:59,339 all that and he says oh he says I'm I'm 1737 01:08:02,630 --> 01:08:01,260 friends with Dave he said I said did 1738 01:08:04,730 --> 01:08:02,640 they call you to vet him he goes hell no 1739 01:08:07,329 --> 01:08:04,740 he goes they call people a lot higher up 1740 01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:07,339 than me like flag officers to vet him 1741 01:08:13,069 --> 01:08:10,559 I'm like small potatoes compared to you 1742 01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:13,079 know the people that they used to vet 1743 01:08:16,010 --> 01:08:15,119 him and his credentials so that that 1744 01:08:19,130 --> 01:08:16,020 should 1745 01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:19,140 something 1746 01:08:22,669 --> 01:08:20,520 um so yeah they're not going to have any 1747 01:08:25,010 --> 01:08:22,679 success so if he says there was a treaty 1748 01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:25,020 man I got to take that seriously just 1749 01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:26,880 like everything that he says that 1750 01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,319 doesn't mean that we're not allowed to 1751 01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,480 be skeptical but if you're trying to 1752 01:08:34,910 --> 01:08:32,400 debunk them and use body language and 1753 01:08:38,450 --> 01:08:34,920 stupid things like that then you know 1754 01:08:40,970 --> 01:08:38,460 that's that's on you I mean these it got 1755 01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:40,980 to an extremely high level and he 1756 01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:43,920 ditched a gs-15 salary in retirement 1757 01:08:50,329 --> 01:08:46,640 plus he ditched his Air Force Reserve 1758 01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:50,339 commission uh which is that's another 1759 01:08:55,729 --> 01:08:53,759 retirement I mean if he didn't you know 1760 01:08:58,669 --> 01:08:55,739 put in 20 years in the Air Force Reserve 1761 01:09:00,169 --> 01:08:58,679 and and unfortunately the calculations 1762 01:09:02,269 --> 01:09:00,179 when you don't have a whole lot of 1763 01:09:04,430 --> 01:09:02,279 active duty time in there 1764 01:09:06,590 --> 01:09:04,440 um you stretch that out it generally is 1765 01:09:08,269 --> 01:09:06,600 more than 20 years you have to put in to 1766 01:09:10,970 --> 01:09:08,279 get the type of retirement that a 1767 01:09:12,590 --> 01:09:10,980 military dude has after 20 years active 1768 01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:12,600 duty so 1769 01:09:19,249 --> 01:09:15,199 um he's got a lot of 1770 01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,259 credibility based on those two things 1771 01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:22,080 oh uh parting shots I'll go around the 1772 01:09:26,090 --> 01:09:24,239 board Debs 1773 01:09:27,849 --> 01:09:26,100 um actually Davey has something he wants 1774 01:09:30,169 --> 01:09:27,859 to throw out so I thought maybe 1775 01:09:32,269 --> 01:09:30,179 absolutely sitting here on this side of 1776 01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:32,279 the pond so much of what we talk about 1777 01:09:37,789 --> 01:09:35,279 typically in this uh scenario is over 1778 01:09:39,890 --> 01:09:37,799 your Over Yonder where you guys are but 1779 01:09:42,349 --> 01:09:39,900 I heard something wonderful that um 1780 01:09:43,610 --> 01:09:42,359 again the aforementioned Ross Colter 1781 01:09:45,890 --> 01:09:43,620 mentioned and it's something for 1782 01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:45,900 everybody over here in the UK 1783 01:09:50,450 --> 01:09:48,000 and he said he'd heard that British 1784 01:09:54,410 --> 01:09:50,460 Aerospace were one of the companies that 1785 01:09:56,810 --> 01:09:54,420 had these exotic non-earthology parts so 1786 01:09:59,930 --> 01:09:56,820 uh Mr smithist gets the the m6 to 1787 01:10:02,270 --> 01:09:59,940 Preston to Wharton and get looking 1788 01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:02,280 through those filing cabinets mate I'll 1789 01:10:14,150 --> 01:10:07,970 hey yep 1790 01:10:17,030 --> 01:10:14,160 it's gonna take a favor a Elizondo melon 1791 01:10:18,890 --> 01:10:17,040 grush type of person to break open your 1792 01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:18,900 government that's that it's going to 1793 01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:22,980 take that level of a person to just you 1794 01:10:27,649 --> 01:10:25,260 know make them move off of this this 1795 01:10:29,340 --> 01:10:27,659 position as far as as near as I could 1796 01:10:30,649 --> 01:10:29,350 tell and then unfortunately 1797 01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:30,659 [Music] 1798 01:10:34,729 --> 01:10:32,880 um it's just a different uh 1799 01:10:37,010 --> 01:10:34,739 that you know the cultures are different 1800 01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,020 and that drives the behaviors and you 1801 01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:39,600 guys know it better than I do I have 1802 01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:41,520 spent you know a short period of time 1803 01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:44,040 over there compared to uh that you guys 1804 01:10:47,570 --> 01:10:45,600 have grown up in this culture but people 1805 01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:47,580 just don't want to rock that boat 1806 01:10:54,410 --> 01:10:51,360 so uh Dan uh or actually Deb's Parting 1807 01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:54,420 Shot I just wanted to say thank you to 1808 01:11:00,050 --> 01:10:57,120 everyone who came to speak to us today 1809 01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:00,060 um and also to point out that um John 1810 01:11:07,130 --> 01:11:02,640 Alexander who seems to have been inside 1811 01:11:09,050 --> 01:11:07,140 quite a few UAP programs did say that 1812 01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:09,060 Russia was a hundred percent 1813 01:11:15,410 --> 01:11:12,719 seven it's another one you can just keep 1814 01:11:16,850 --> 01:11:15,420 them keep them coming man you get get to 1815 01:11:19,070 --> 01:11:16,860 that level 1816 01:11:22,189 --> 01:11:19,080 um Dan they're they're gonna have a hard 1817 01:11:26,030 --> 01:11:22,199 time getting into those title title 50 1818 01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:26,040 programs but uh any parting shot on on 1819 01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:29,040 your part my friend yeah so I I just 1820 01:11:34,250 --> 01:11:32,400 want to ask people to consider or one of 1821 01:11:35,689 --> 01:11:34,260 the potential reasons 1822 01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:35,699 for 1823 01:11:41,209 --> 01:11:38,760 the the existing regime that's in place 1824 01:11:44,270 --> 01:11:41,219 not wanting to disclose what's going on 1825 01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:44,280 it could be I I see two different 1826 01:11:51,410 --> 01:11:47,520 possibilities one is that if a craft 1827 01:11:53,390 --> 01:11:51,420 landed in 1933 then it could be more 1828 01:11:56,270 --> 01:11:53,400 than just the United States involved 1829 01:11:58,430 --> 01:11:56,280 with those programs it could be the five 1830 01:12:01,310 --> 01:11:58,440 eyes it could basically go all the way 1831 01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:01,320 back to the Allies from World War II 1832 01:12:07,010 --> 01:12:03,840 being part of what established the 1833 01:12:10,370 --> 01:12:07,020 secrecy program to reverse engineer to 1834 01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:10,380 protect the world from the evil that was 1835 01:12:17,090 --> 01:12:13,679 present at the time and the reluctance 1836 01:12:19,610 --> 01:12:17,100 for the current folks not wanting to 1837 01:12:21,530 --> 01:12:19,620 reveal what's going on is because a lot 1838 01:12:24,169 --> 01:12:21,540 of tough questions are going to be asked 1839 01:12:27,050 --> 01:12:24,179 immediately after that occurs so it 1840 01:12:29,630 --> 01:12:27,060 could be that the people that are in 1841 01:12:32,209 --> 01:12:29,640 charge right now that are in power don't 1842 01:12:35,330 --> 01:12:32,219 want to be the ones holding the bag when 1843 01:12:38,750 --> 01:12:35,340 the sins of their fathers 1844 01:12:40,130 --> 01:12:38,760 quote unquote fathers are revealed they 1845 01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:40,140 don't want to be the one saying well now 1846 01:12:44,930 --> 01:12:42,960 I got to explain what happened what what 1847 01:12:47,410 --> 01:12:44,940 they did and I gotta fall on the sword 1848 01:12:49,970 --> 01:12:47,420 for them I didn't do this but I'm caught 1849 01:12:51,530 --> 01:12:49,980 holding the bag right now 1850 01:12:54,169 --> 01:12:51,540 um so that's something I want people to 1851 01:12:56,810 --> 01:12:54,179 consider and one more thing is the next 1852 01:12:59,330 --> 01:12:56,820 time that you me and Dave are having a 1853 01:13:01,669 --> 01:12:59,340 conversation I want to hear Dave's bar 1854 01:13:03,950 --> 01:13:01,679 fight stories before we end the podcast 1855 01:13:07,490 --> 01:13:03,960 because I don't think it's fair to tease 1856 01:13:09,050 --> 01:13:07,500 us like that no no no I got somebody 1857 01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:09,060 else to do it so you don't look at the 1858 01:13:13,610 --> 01:13:10,980 way he's looking at you over there he's 1859 01:13:16,130 --> 01:13:13,620 respect leave the bar he's a respectable 1860 01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:16,140 man now exactly 1861 01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,360 I'm a very respectable gentleman his 1862 01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:20,159 street fighting days are long over but 1863 01:13:22,970 --> 01:13:21,960 yeah maybe he will if he if he's willing 1864 01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:22,980 to share we can push him a little 1865 01:13:29,770 --> 01:13:27,120 further Dan uh you know 1866 01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:32,390 no I was going to say it's not a it's 1867 01:13:36,350 --> 01:13:34,080 not a political thing I think as you 1868 01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:36,360 said it's the left holding the bag issue 1869 01:13:42,590 --> 01:13:39,360 A and B you know you can bring in 1870 01:13:44,990 --> 01:13:42,600 whoever your cabinet sociologists and 1871 01:13:48,649 --> 01:13:45,000 psychologists are and they're they're 1872 01:13:51,229 --> 01:13:48,659 still only going to guess at how the 1873 01:13:53,870 --> 01:13:51,239 American populace which is their Chief 1874 01:13:55,970 --> 01:13:53,880 concern obviously is going to react and 1875 01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:55,980 how destabilizing it may or may not be 1876 01:14:00,890 --> 01:13:58,560 and that is going to depend on how far 1877 01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:00,900 the how far you lift up the garage door 1878 01:14:05,330 --> 01:14:03,360 and what people see and I think that's a 1879 01:14:06,410 --> 01:14:05,340 difficult spot if you listen to Grant 1880 01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:06,420 Cameron 1881 01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:08,880 um he went back over several presidents 1882 01:14:13,970 --> 01:14:11,280 and there was really only two that had 1883 01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:13,980 an interest in in his at least in you 1884 01:14:18,530 --> 01:14:16,260 know in his memory because obviously he 1885 01:14:20,689 --> 01:14:18,540 wasn't around for Nixon and Ford and so 1886 01:14:23,810 --> 01:14:20,699 forth but um 1887 01:14:26,450 --> 01:14:23,820 but yeah it's uh it's very difficult it 1888 01:14:29,090 --> 01:14:26,460 goes back to Jim semivan they they don't 1889 01:14:31,729 --> 01:14:29,100 know how to explain it so I think 1890 01:14:33,950 --> 01:14:31,739 Congress can force the door open to a 1891 01:14:35,209 --> 01:14:33,960 degree and that was the question I was 1892 01:14:37,850 --> 01:14:35,219 going to ask I'm so glad because it 1893 01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:37,860 jarred my memory I I was gonna go around 1894 01:14:42,530 --> 01:14:40,320 the panel and ask everybody how much do 1895 01:14:43,970 --> 01:14:42,540 you think we should be told that was 1896 01:14:45,950 --> 01:14:43,980 going to be my question but I'm not 1897 01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,960 going to ask you guys to stay late to 1898 01:14:49,370 --> 01:14:47,760 entertain that unless that's what you 1899 01:14:50,930 --> 01:14:49,380 want and or we could hit it up on a 1900 01:14:52,189 --> 01:14:50,940 future episodes 1901 01:14:54,290 --> 01:14:52,199 um Dave 1902 01:14:55,910 --> 01:14:54,300 uh well on the assumption that nobody 1903 01:14:57,410 --> 01:14:55,920 wants to stay like I don't mind but I'll 1904 01:15:00,290 --> 01:14:57,420 give you I'll hit you with three things 1905 01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:00,300 I was gonna hit you I did want to say uh 1906 01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:02,400 to Dan how brilliant his videos have 1907 01:15:05,810 --> 01:15:03,840 been released in the last four months I 1908 01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:05,820 mean they're always good and really good 1909 01:15:09,530 --> 01:15:08,400 recently mate really really good so I've 1910 01:15:12,010 --> 01:15:09,540 been cheering one of them I was going 1911 01:15:15,950 --> 01:15:12,020 yes quite right well not quite that baby 1912 01:15:17,390 --> 01:15:15,960 but anyway fantastic work uh so the 1913 01:15:19,070 --> 01:15:17,400 first three things I want to say I think 1914 01:15:21,410 --> 01:15:19,080 the elephant in the room sort of is 1915 01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:21,420 about abductions really nobody's really 1916 01:15:25,550 --> 01:15:23,280 talked about it that much and there may 1917 01:15:27,470 --> 01:15:25,560 be a link to that with treaties and it 1918 01:15:28,910 --> 01:15:27,480 may well be if there was some deals on 1919 01:15:32,270 --> 01:15:28,920 has often been rumored but they can 1920 01:15:34,010 --> 01:15:32,280 abduct people uh that that is something 1921 01:15:36,590 --> 01:15:34,020 that'd be very hard to explain away 1922 01:15:38,450 --> 01:15:36,600 isn't it the second one is we're given 1923 01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:38,460 but the app collapse away from and the 1924 01:15:43,370 --> 01:15:40,080 international of Russia and all that no 1925 01:15:45,890 --> 01:15:43,380 us has this technology this asymmetrical 1926 01:15:48,530 --> 01:15:45,900 advantage that may really destabilize 1927 01:15:49,490 --> 01:15:48,540 digital deterrence and it may mean that 1928 01:15:52,910 --> 01:15:49,500 people have to come together 1929 01:15:54,590 --> 01:15:52,920 internationally via the UN to try and 1930 01:15:56,510 --> 01:15:54,600 sort it out and I think this stuff in 1931 01:15:59,930 --> 01:15:56,520 San Marino was more significant than we 1932 01:16:02,149 --> 01:15:59,940 think and finally I would say uh we've 1933 01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:02,159 got to ask the question uh well we often 1934 01:16:06,050 --> 01:16:03,600 think we're strategizing we're winning 1935 01:16:08,810 --> 01:16:06,060 but it's all going one way how far the 1936 01:16:10,970 --> 01:16:08,820 non-disclosure faction prepared to go 1937 01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:10,980 stop this coming out given we don't know 1938 01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:13,199 what they're hiding and what would they 1939 01:16:17,090 --> 01:16:15,600 do to stop it is it cool what is it who 1940 01:16:19,729 --> 01:16:17,100 knows I know that's a little bit uh 1941 01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:19,739 inflammatory the point is we don't know 1942 01:16:24,229 --> 01:16:22,560 what the other side's gonna do and it's 1943 01:16:26,689 --> 01:16:24,239 something that we're thinking about so 1944 01:16:28,430 --> 01:16:26,699 they're my free things to leave us on a 1945 01:16:31,490 --> 01:16:28,440 cliff edge with but I'm quite happy to 1946 01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:31,500 go into your point if people want to 1947 01:16:36,530 --> 01:16:34,560 those are those are great points 1948 01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:36,540 um Dave maybe Dan will send you a check 1949 01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:38,100 for that one 1950 01:16:41,630 --> 01:16:40,020 um well he's already has DJs don't worry 1951 01:16:44,030 --> 01:16:41,640 about that 1952 01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:44,040 yeah no if you want to hit up hit up my 1953 01:16:49,070 --> 01:16:45,840 question real quick feel feel free and 1954 01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:49,080 then we'll go to Davey what was it 1955 01:16:53,750 --> 01:16:51,600 oh man now I gotta remember oh my gosh 1956 01:16:55,790 --> 01:16:53,760 do you think they should tell us what 1957 01:16:58,370 --> 01:16:55,800 yeah I think is well security concerns 1958 01:17:00,590 --> 01:16:58,380 in mind well I think as Western 1959 01:17:02,990 --> 01:17:00,600 democracies we've managed to navigate 1960 01:17:04,729 --> 01:17:03,000 between State secrecy and classified 1961 01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:04,739 sequencing what the people should know 1962 01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:07,679 on accountability so I think basically 1963 01:17:10,910 --> 01:17:09,840 they need to tell us obviously they 1964 01:17:12,649 --> 01:17:10,920 can't tell us things that will 1965 01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:12,659 destabilize this state and they need to 1966 01:17:17,090 --> 01:17:14,640 keep secret I will give the us or 1967 01:17:19,250 --> 01:17:17,100 whoever the Western Alliance a tactical 1968 01:17:21,229 --> 01:17:19,260 disadvantage they've obviously got to 1969 01:17:23,330 --> 01:17:21,239 keep the proportion stuff secret if it's 1970 01:17:25,250 --> 01:17:23,340 a massive power we think it isn't good 1971 01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:25,260 somebody could blow up the world with it 1972 01:17:29,930 --> 01:17:27,360 so clearly they need to keep that quiet 1973 01:17:31,610 --> 01:17:29,940 but the using that I think is a blanket 1974 01:17:33,470 --> 01:17:31,620 reason not to tell us all things that 1975 01:17:35,090 --> 01:17:33,480 may be uncomfortable or to hide their 1976 01:17:37,970 --> 01:17:35,100 own culpability and what they've got to 1977 01:17:39,470 --> 01:17:37,980 do so I think they should tell us as 1978 01:17:41,390 --> 01:17:39,480 much as they can up to the line it 1979 01:17:43,010 --> 01:17:41,400 doesn't compromise our safety but allow 1980 01:17:45,290 --> 01:17:43,020 us to make decisions because this whole 1981 01:17:47,870 --> 01:17:45,300 thing has been characterized by a shady 1982 01:17:50,450 --> 01:17:47,880 cabal on democratically over 70 years 1983 01:17:52,010 --> 01:17:50,460 making decisions become increasingly 1984 01:17:54,350 --> 01:17:52,020 twisted and increasingly in their own 1985 01:17:56,209 --> 01:17:54,360 interests and that is what democracy is 1986 01:17:57,649 --> 01:17:56,219 about it's about that not happening it's 1987 01:17:59,330 --> 01:17:57,659 about not the government of the few 1988 01:18:01,010 --> 01:17:59,340 governing their own interests it's about 1989 01:18:03,229 --> 01:18:01,020 the people or the people's 1990 01:18:05,570 --> 01:18:03,239 Representatives having a say because 1991 01:18:07,070 --> 01:18:05,580 let's say there's a coming some sort of 1992 01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:07,080 coming Calamity or there's some 1993 01:18:10,669 --> 01:18:08,880 overcoming event we don't know about 1994 01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:10,679 they may have made the decision oh 1995 01:18:14,030 --> 01:18:12,000 there's nothing we can do about it 1996 01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:14,040 whereas people like Lou or whatever 1997 01:18:17,630 --> 01:18:15,840 might think no that's not right we need 1998 01:18:19,070 --> 01:18:17,640 to as a society these other solutions 1999 01:18:22,250 --> 01:18:19,080 could be something like that or 2000 01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:22,260 something a bit like dramatic but you 2001 01:18:25,790 --> 01:18:24,000 Western democracies have always 2002 01:18:27,410 --> 01:18:25,800 navigating difficult decisions and 2003 01:18:29,450 --> 01:18:27,420 democracy's been able to make those 2004 01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:29,460 decisions and I think this is no 2005 01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:32,159 different it's just the same problem in 2006 01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:33,719 a different wrapping so that's what I 2007 01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:36,060 think tonight yeah before I go to David 2008 01:18:41,810 --> 01:18:39,840 I love dick Russian that um that he 2009 01:18:44,750 --> 01:18:41,820 really regretted that real world 2010 01:18:46,729 --> 01:18:44,760 problems like you know propulsion energy 2011 01:18:48,169 --> 01:18:46,739 you know I mean maybe there's even 2012 01:18:50,090 --> 01:18:48,179 something with food production that 2013 01:18:52,669 --> 01:18:50,100 could have been achieved if the best and 2014 01:18:55,070 --> 01:18:52,679 brightest uh that in whatever country 2015 01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:55,080 has these craft had been allowed to 2016 01:18:59,450 --> 01:18:57,360 access them and reverse engineer them 2017 01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:59,460 because he's insinuating that we don't 2018 01:19:04,610 --> 01:19:00,960 have the best and the brightest that are 2019 01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,620 looking at it now so um Davey what did 2020 01:19:08,450 --> 01:19:06,480 you have sir please 2021 01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:08,460 yeah I would just like to say thank you 2022 01:19:13,130 --> 01:19:11,520 to you DJ and to Deb for hosting us as 2023 01:19:15,770 --> 01:19:13,140 always great to be back with our cab 2024 01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:15,780 family some of the other you know people 2025 01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,360 we've met here today and uh Corey I'm 2026 01:19:21,770 --> 01:19:19,679 looking forward to working with you in 2027 01:19:23,810 --> 01:19:21,780 some other areas around this as well 2028 01:19:26,030 --> 01:19:23,820 absolutely um 2029 01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:26,040 and also to Jules for uh our super 2030 01:19:29,390 --> 01:19:28,080 working chat as well hats off to your 2031 01:19:31,490 --> 01:19:29,400 jewels 2032 01:19:33,530 --> 01:19:31,500 I would also like to this is sort of 2033 01:19:35,689 --> 01:19:33,540 ties into what you ask Dave in terms of 2034 01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:35,699 DJ in terms of 2035 01:19:41,330 --> 01:19:37,679 how much should they tell us and I think 2036 01:19:43,970 --> 01:19:41,340 Dave used the word decision probably 15 2037 01:19:46,010 --> 01:19:43,980 times in his response and so without 2038 01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:46,020 sounding like I'm angling for a guest 2039 01:19:50,590 --> 01:19:48,239 slot on the higher side chats or 2040 01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:50,600 something else equally conspiratorial 2041 01:19:55,970 --> 01:19:53,520 who are the decision makers 2042 01:19:58,910 --> 01:19:55,980 are not just about this but who makes 2043 01:20:00,290 --> 01:19:58,920 the real decisions 2044 01:20:03,229 --> 01:20:00,300 it's not a point 2045 01:20:05,209 --> 01:20:03,239 excellent that's a great point and also 2046 01:20:07,070 --> 01:20:05,219 Dave's use of the word cabal usually you 2047 01:20:09,470 --> 01:20:07,080 don't hear that unless you're on like a 2048 01:20:10,729 --> 01:20:09,480 a political program uh where they're 2049 01:20:12,649 --> 01:20:10,739 talking about one side or the other 2050 01:20:15,770 --> 01:20:12,659 you'll hear them use the word cabal so 2051 01:20:19,130 --> 01:20:15,780 Dave great great shoehorn on that wow 2052 01:20:22,250 --> 01:20:19,140 but um Davey that I think what Davey's 2053 01:20:23,870 --> 01:20:22,260 alluding to Ash is that 2054 01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:23,880 um are these people are some of these 2055 01:20:27,649 --> 01:20:25,679 people qualified to make these decisions 2056 01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:27,659 on what we should know and shouldn't 2057 01:20:32,510 --> 01:20:30,239 know and I think uh Davey's saying that 2058 01:20:34,930 --> 01:20:32,520 there's probably you know cabinet 2059 01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:34,940 officials National command authorities 2060 01:20:41,330 --> 01:20:38,159 and or congress elected officials that 2061 01:20:42,649 --> 01:20:41,340 are more uh better placed to decide what 2062 01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,659 we should know I think that's where you 2063 01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:44,400 were going Davey but Ash please your 2064 01:20:53,630 --> 01:20:50,990 yeah I was going to talk about something 2065 01:20:55,490 --> 01:20:53,640 else but um go ahead 2066 01:20:56,930 --> 01:20:55,500 my current shirt was going to be around 2067 01:20:58,610 --> 01:20:56,940 um I think Dan mentioned it around five 2068 01:21:00,110 --> 01:20:58,620 O's I think we're going to be seeing a 2069 01:21:01,370 --> 01:21:00,120 bit more around that I certainly here in 2070 01:21:03,169 --> 01:21:01,380 the UK want to find out a bit more about 2071 01:21:05,149 --> 01:21:03,179 that being you know a signatory to that 2072 01:21:07,070 --> 01:21:05,159 our country is uh and the foreign 2073 01:21:09,169 --> 01:21:07,080 material program that's been you know 2074 01:21:11,390 --> 01:21:09,179 alluded to I think that could be an 2075 01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:11,400 inroad for us in the UK to try and find 2076 01:21:14,510 --> 01:21:12,480 out a little bit more information about 2077 01:21:16,430 --> 01:21:14,520 what's what's been going on and our role 2078 01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:16,440 in in the in the wider crash retrieval 2079 01:21:20,270 --> 01:21:17,760 program 2080 01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:20,280 um so yeah that's that's my Pine gift if 2081 01:21:23,930 --> 01:21:22,800 anyone in the UK is listening then I 2082 01:21:25,790 --> 01:21:23,940 think that could be something we need to 2083 01:21:28,189 --> 01:21:25,800 explore and and yeah get those Freedom 2084 01:21:30,050 --> 01:21:28,199 of Information requests in 2085 01:21:32,270 --> 01:21:30,060 uh anyways do you have a question DJ 2086 01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,280 around how much information should we 2087 01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,800 know yes sir just quickly I think um 2088 01:21:37,370 --> 01:21:36,239 Jeremy Corbell 2089 01:21:39,169 --> 01:21:37,380 um mentioned it on the weaponized 2090 01:21:40,850 --> 01:21:39,179 podcast recently but it's it's you know 2091 01:21:42,770 --> 01:21:40,860 we know about nuclear we know about 2092 01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:42,780 nuclear technology but we don't know how 2093 01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:44,880 to make nuclear weapons so it's the same 2094 01:21:48,110 --> 01:21:46,560 with biotech you know bioweapons we know 2095 01:21:49,490 --> 01:21:48,120 they exist we know bits about them they 2096 01:21:51,470 --> 01:21:49,500 can be researched but we don't give 2097 01:21:53,090 --> 01:21:51,480 people the keys to the the weapons 2098 01:21:54,350 --> 01:21:53,100 themselves that we or the the in-depth 2099 01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:54,360 information around how to make these 2100 01:21:57,770 --> 01:21:56,400 things I think there is a certain amount 2101 01:21:59,209 --> 01:21:57,780 we can know but when it comes to 2102 01:22:00,649 --> 01:21:59,219 specifics and the detail and more 2103 01:22:02,209 --> 01:22:00,659 granular perhaps there are things that 2104 01:22:05,090 --> 01:22:02,219 because they could be weaponized and 2105 01:22:06,290 --> 01:22:05,100 used for um negative means that perhaps 2106 01:22:08,590 --> 01:22:06,300 there's certain things that shouldn't be 2107 01:22:10,669 --> 01:22:08,600 allowed out in the open to the public 2108 01:22:11,810 --> 01:22:10,679 but someone in the chat mentioned yeah 2109 01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:11,820 we should know as much as we can 2110 01:22:14,750 --> 01:22:13,679 possibly know and I think that's true 2111 01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:14,760 um but at the end of the day if it's 2112 01:22:18,410 --> 01:22:17,040 gonna be detrimental to The Wider public 2113 01:22:20,270 --> 01:22:18,420 then there has to be a level somewhere 2114 01:22:21,410 --> 01:22:20,280 and like you were saying DJ we rely on 2115 01:22:23,450 --> 01:22:21,420 the elected officials to make those 2116 01:22:25,610 --> 01:22:23,460 decisions on our behalf 2117 01:22:28,250 --> 01:22:25,620 I agree with what you said 100 and 2118 01:22:30,830 --> 01:22:28,260 Jeremy should have cited David rush in 2119 01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:30,840 apa or MLA formatting because though 2120 01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:32,400 that was his quote 2121 01:22:39,649 --> 01:22:34,560 yeah 2122 01:22:41,149 --> 01:22:39,659 his quote but anyway guys I've listened 2123 01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:41,159 to so many things recently I think I 2124 01:22:43,790 --> 01:22:42,239 probably just said that because the last 2125 01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:43,800 thing I listened to and heard it but 2126 01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:44,960 yeah yeah 2127 01:22:48,830 --> 01:22:47,460 but yeah you're right it was David said 2128 01:22:50,090 --> 01:22:48,840 that it turned it yuck it up here a 2129 01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:50,100 little bit good 2130 01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:56,870 along the lines of David is I hope that 2131 01:23:01,610 --> 01:22:58,560 they can tell us everything they can 2132 01:23:04,130 --> 01:23:01,620 without uh compromising our Global 2133 01:23:05,870 --> 01:23:04,140 Security I'm sure that uh if it does 2134 01:23:08,810 --> 01:23:05,880 involve aspects of free energy and 2135 01:23:10,970 --> 01:23:08,820 Technology uh that there are some 2136 01:23:13,070 --> 01:23:10,980 serious con uh you know safety concerns 2137 01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:13,080 but just as someone said you know we're 2138 01:23:16,970 --> 01:23:15,360 aware that nuclear weapons exist but we 2139 01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:16,980 don't have the materials and you know 2140 01:23:22,729 --> 01:23:18,840 the formula so hopefully they can give 2141 01:23:25,669 --> 01:23:22,739 us a redacted version of what they know 2142 01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:25,679 yeah I I and I'm just for my Parting 2143 01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,800 Shot uh thank you Julia 2144 01:23:32,689 --> 01:23:30,480 no yeah we'll we'll get you we'll get 2145 01:23:34,850 --> 01:23:32,699 you definitely get a pardon comment uh 2146 01:23:37,490 --> 01:23:34,860 Julie I agree like And subscribe that 2147 01:23:39,229 --> 01:23:37,500 way when I ask Ross kotak to come on he 2148 01:23:41,870 --> 01:23:39,239 says yes because he sees we have like 2149 01:23:43,250 --> 01:23:41,880 700 subscribers or wherever it is 2150 01:23:46,250 --> 01:23:43,260 um anyway 2151 01:23:48,890 --> 01:23:46,260 um yeah I agree what's released has to 2152 01:23:52,209 --> 01:23:48,900 be safe but I think they can give the 2153 01:23:56,030 --> 01:23:52,219 general idea of of what we have 2154 01:23:58,430 --> 01:23:56,040 and that the nature of some of those 2155 01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,440 things that have been discussed uh touch 2156 01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:00,960 on all of them to a degree perhaps 2157 01:24:04,910 --> 01:24:03,120 there's a couple maybe not all of them 2158 01:24:07,370 --> 01:24:04,920 because there's a couple that I think 2159 01:24:09,470 --> 01:24:07,380 are very scary for us to even discuss so 2160 01:24:11,870 --> 01:24:09,480 I could imagine I can't imagine somebody 2161 01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:11,880 getting up on a Podium uh at the White 2162 01:24:16,430 --> 01:24:13,679 House or the Pentagon and talking about 2163 01:24:18,590 --> 01:24:16,440 that uh or even in the Hall of Congress 2164 01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:18,600 but you know what a congressman might 2165 01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:20,880 they might they might talk about it but 2166 01:24:24,410 --> 01:24:22,800 but yeah nothing that would be unsafe 2167 01:24:27,649 --> 01:24:24,420 for destabilizing just the general 2168 01:24:30,890 --> 01:24:27,659 nature so that people as Deb likes to 2169 01:24:32,990 --> 01:24:30,900 say that people can start to come to 2170 01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:33,000 terms that there is something else here 2171 01:24:37,250 --> 01:24:35,580 that we're not alone and you can prepare 2172 01:24:39,590 --> 01:24:37,260 yourself so that you don't absolutely 2173 01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:39,600 freak out if you do see something or if 2174 01:24:44,330 --> 01:24:42,000 something happens that nobody can deny 2175 01:24:46,729 --> 01:24:44,340 then they control the narrative now it's 2176 01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:46,739 Adam out of everybody's hands connect 2177 01:24:52,130 --> 01:24:49,440 comment real quick yes ma'am please 2178 01:24:53,810 --> 01:24:52,140 the best way in my opinion is to just 2179 01:24:56,510 --> 01:24:53,820 let scientists present this information 2180 01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:56,520 because scientists Let Live some of the 2181 01:25:01,130 --> 01:24:58,560 craziest things nowadays and people are 2182 01:25:04,490 --> 01:25:01,140 just not really paying attention no 2183 01:25:07,189 --> 01:25:04,500 one's panicking and like let Avi lope do 2184 01:25:08,630 --> 01:25:07,199 it just kidding yeah maybe someone a 2185 01:25:10,729 --> 01:25:08,640 little more subtle like if they put it 2186 01:25:12,350 --> 01:25:10,739 in science America or something like 2187 01:25:14,810 --> 01:25:12,360 that people are not even going to Blink 2188 01:25:17,930 --> 01:25:14,820 an eye because they identify new species 2189 01:25:19,729 --> 01:25:17,940 all the time so that's just a comment 2190 01:25:21,890 --> 01:25:19,739 that I have to throw out there 2191 01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:21,900 and Corey you had something as well sir 2192 01:25:26,630 --> 01:25:24,239 yeah no I just wanted to thank you DJ 2193 01:25:29,330 --> 01:25:26,640 for having me on thanks Deb uh thanks 2194 01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:29,340 Dan I'm a big fan Dan you're a talented 2195 01:25:32,810 --> 01:25:30,960 fan 2196 01:25:36,110 --> 01:25:32,820 um Dave you've had a chance to meet you 2197 01:25:38,510 --> 01:25:36,120 uh Ash it's nice talking to you Dave so 2198 01:25:40,729 --> 01:25:38,520 I'm just happy to be on man and I look 2199 01:25:43,010 --> 01:25:40,739 forward to seeing this disclosure 2200 01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:43,020 through with the rest of you guys 2201 01:25:48,350 --> 01:25:45,600 yeah once again uh Deb and I are very 2202 01:25:50,810 --> 01:25:48,360 humbled to have an amazing panel of 2203 01:25:55,130 --> 01:25:50,820 really really smart people like you guys 2204 01:25:57,229 --> 01:25:55,140 and uh it's an honor to have you all on 2205 01:26:01,070 --> 01:25:57,239 um it won't be the last time it's just 2206 01:26:05,689 --> 01:26:01,080 just the first time so uh on behalf of 2207 01:26:08,330 --> 01:26:05,699 my co-host Debs Nathan Matt Leah and 2208 01:26:11,209 --> 01:26:08,340 Frank all the cabbies 2209 01:26:14,330 --> 01:26:11,219 um thank you so much this is DJ saying 2210 01:26:16,129 --> 01:26:14,340 peace out one love we'll see you down 2211 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:16,139 the road and as always we're wondering 2212 01:26:41,810 --> 01:26:18,010 what's up around the bend 2213 01:26:42,490 --> 01:26:41,820 [Music]